slay

I am so confident this is a fake that I would give away my genuine Offshore if the pictures did not show a fake. I think the seller probably was duped by someone who traded the watch in, because everything else he is selling is 100% legitimate.

yeah, it must be fake, unless of course there's a movement shortage at AP and they started using 7750 movements and forgot to change the dials

That's ok!!

Be carefull dude, he's down with the nunchacku thingees

Hm, Maybe they dont know that this watch is a rep? But if the seconds are running at 9, they should notice that there is something wrong with the watch°!

please please talk to the maker and tell him to make the bracelet!!! it cant be too hard to make this bracelet

Wow 450euros is really steep!

Yeah, I spotted the dial flaws, too.

But I thought george isnt selling this watch yet?

How do you know its fake and its from george? I thought those weren't even out yet

South Parkish "jew gold"

at least someone gets it

300$ for any non-swiss-7750 rep

500$ for any swiss 7750 rep

400$ for a 6263

I'll take that bet! How much would you like to wager?

BTW, I've got the password to the pics.

you are probably talkin about this one:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v738/the...nt=P1010096.jpg

Well, better be careful whatyou say around here, especialy if you say anything about jews! I got hunted down for making a simple "jew gold" remark!

dude, i was with you until you got to the jews, sorry man, they are cheap basterds and will cheat their mother out of a dime at any cost.

are you serious about this or was this sarcasm I did not get?

I have 2 dials that need their feet moved to a different location (DW dials). Whats the best way of putting them to the right location and how do I find "the spot" where they should be sitting at?

You guys are [censored]ing ridiculous!

Always talking about why cant they make it 1:1, add AR, make date font prefect just do this or that and I would happily pay more for a “perfect” rep.

So here it is, made “perfect”, 1:1, AR, everything else…dealers even got the “H” added to the movement when we pointed out it was missing….and now you are all crying that it costs too much?

What a bunch of [censored]ing hypocrites!

Watch your [censored]IN language

Ok then, I'm gonna watch Snakes on A Plane now, you have a marry christmas!

LOL... for your information..

The PAM127 - 1950 I sell is SUPERLUME with Sapphire AR although recessed pin is not fixed.

All for only USD298. Plus shipping (I almost forget)

See, about 100$ more expensive than from River for example, because rivers probably does not have superlume and sapphire with A/R! And ppl are probably willing to pay 100$ more for your watch. I would too, because fixing those things yourself is more expensive than 100$.

You are acting offended even though I never offended you.

And I am chilled, you are the one who has got an offensive undertone!

You dont have to be afraid that noone buys from you. I bought at least 10 watches from you andrew, even though there were other dealers who had the same watch for the same price or maybe less! You dont only buy the watch, you buy the dealer, too!

A Very Simple Equation for you to digest:

Flaws found ---> Corrected ---> More cost incurred to change (depending on the process at which the project is in) ---> Price increase due to it ---> Cost high ---> You guys dont buy ---> WIN -WIN? LOL...

E.G. This project was delayed due to the fact that the Sapphire Glass was installed wrongly.

You dont have to get exorbitant with me, I never attacked you!

I said I am not going to pay 450$ for a asian 7750 replica. There are a lot of ppl who would probably pay the price.

And 450$ is still cheaper than modding the watch yourself.

Simple Equation for you to digest :

Panerai 1950:

Flaws: Bad Lume, (sometimes) no sapphire, recessed pin

Costs to fix yourself: 100$ Superluminova, 80$ Crystal, 20$ getting the crystal pressed on the watch, 100$ pin fix = 300$ of additional $ you have to invest the watch.

I'd rather have the watch 50$ or 100$ more expensive without those flaws than having to fix them myself! If you take a look into davidsens section for example, you would see that he offers a 1950 with all those upgrades for about 100-150$ more than what you guys charge. And I think he sells them quite well!

I really don't like the direction this thread has gone. I am totally surprised at the posts by Andrew and Joshua, particularly Joshua. It's not his usual style to badmouth another dealer. We are talking about around a 9% price difference between dealers. You don't see Paul singling people out for overcharging, and Eddie is generally pricier than everyone and no dealers gives him grief.

Angus has been working pretty hard to keep people up to date on what is happening with this watch. If that is his angle, then let him do it. I know I've been waiting for this watch for a long time but I probably won't purchase from Angus. All dealers will benefit from his marketing of it, and you'll remember from his first post, he never took any credit for it's beginnings.

I dont like the badmouthing either, thats what I'm trying to point out this whole time! I think what Angus has done is great and we should give him credit for that.

Slay

Below USD300? LOL... you can really wait on this...trust me (no pun intended)

Andrew

Then I will wait. I dont NEED to have this watch.

the math..... is what you miss.... is the price i am offering for the big bang is cheaper or dearer ?

Thats the math.....

joshua

So? I NEVER said yours was more expensive, I said YOURS is CHEAPER, but not very MUCH cheaper. You probably did not read my post correctly!

Slay

Try asking EL, River, PT and the other dealers for this HUblot BB now...

Give me a reply after then.

Andrew

Why should I do that?

This maker of the Big Bang is NOT the one who made the Panerais with Swiss Unitas Swan Neck, Breitling Navis, IWCs...etc.

Those flaws on the other watches are made by other makers. You can call them stupid but I think you are labelling the Makers and the buyers alike too. There are still many people who buy them, piece after piece. These customers know the true value... you are paying only a minute fraction of the price of an original and you get all the satisfaction out of it. Remember replicas are always replicas... if you really want a 1:1 100% perfect one, get the genuine. =)

I never said I need a 1:1 perfect 100% replica, I just said that I think it is GOOD when Angus talks to the rep makers so he can correct falws.

Why should we accept a watch with flaws if its soo easy to make it better?

And I dont know which makers makes which watch, and honestly I dont care either. But what I do know is, that every replica has at least ONE little flaw that can be corrected just SO easy. If we tell Angus this, he can tell the makers and the maker can correct it. Win-Win situation!

Dont act like the Hublot makers makes no flaws at all and has superman-vision (See the H on the dial for example). There have been flaws on the watch that have been corrected because WE pointed them out. Even if it was just one tiny flaws, I'm confident that we corrected it with our input!

slay.... do your math...

I did the math, but apparently you missed my post!

so what ? at insane cost and profiteering margins ?

please........

it is afterall a asian 7750 replica...

If I recall, your watch is only 28$ cheaper! 30$ is about the usual difference between different dealers.

River also offers some watches 50-100$ cheaper than you do!

And I agree, its an asian 7750 replica, and I wont buy it either until it goes below 300$!

chronomat123,

No offence to you but please dont be naive.

Now You are naive!

Maker has the genuine watch to compare. Why do they need your input? The Hublot Big Bang was an idea of Joshua given to the Maker who at the point of time did not even know the brand "HUBLOT". In the end, someone else gets the credit for what Joshua has done. The Maker bought a piece of a genuine Hublot BB and replicated from that. Inputs from Angus and you guys? Why do they ever need that?

The Makers have the genuine watch MOST of the time. Still they produce shitty watches that have a lot of flaws. Funny, huh?

Many flaws in the hublot have been fixed because WE pointed them out. The H on the dial for example. Joashua may have asked the manufactor to make a Hublot, but Joshua has NOT kept us up to date with sample pictures, and Joashua has NOT asked for our input.

Remember...what you see posted by Angus are just prototypes. Those Makers does not make right the first time and so what you guys see is somehow wrong here and there. Do you think the Maker is BLIND? They will improve on themselves till they get it better.

Yes, Yes... sure sure! And because they are soooo damn smart they still have not fixed the recessed pin for example on all the pams. Fact is, makers dont have an eye for some details. A lot of members here DO have an eye for those details which seem to be minimal to most other people.

As for the Breitling SuperOCean and the other watches, do you really think ANGUS has the only right to shoot the prototypes? Joshua and I also can shoot them but REMEMBER they are just prototypes and the over-hype of it does not make any sense at all. Just look at the Hublot Big Bang..

And yet you guys dont do it. I think what Angus is doing is great. And I give him credit for what he has done so far. He has invested a lot of time by replying to all of our concerns and questions!

I think its very childish of you to act like Angus has done nothing special.

ANGUS started the so called sale at low price which he didnt fulfill. Well guys, if you think I am lying to you, ask Joshua. I have to give credit for Joshua for asking the maker to consider the watch... thats the truth. I saw the genuine myself after speaking to joshua about 4-5 months back and thought this watch is marvellous.

No, I dont think you are lying to us, but I think you dont give Angus the credit he deserves. Joshua may have suggested to make this watch, but Angus let us see behind the doors and answered all of our questions and our input helped making this watch better!