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That's horrifying. I haven't seen this, but I consider that a crime against humanity considering Africa is DYING en masse.

Mcsherry, you are a lamb! I didn't know about this. All sorts of televisual* possibilities have opened up. http://www.channel4.com/4od/get4od/index.jsp Just click on "Install 40D Now" in the red button. It's a simple install, with no registration required. The Fake Trade IS available, under TV, middle-right of the page. The blurb: "Counterfeiting has become the fastest growing crime of modern times, and all because 20 years ago the most famous luxury brands went East in search of cheap labour." Episode 1 & 2 are there, ready to view. Brill! I can kiss the devil-worshippers adios! *A little Fawlty Towers humour

You probably read Mr. Jon Fort's recent post about this: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=68494&hl= He compared his SFSO and SSD in a deep dive. The SFSO didn't survive, the SSD did. Both are "guaranteed" to certain depths, by the respective collectors. If that's what you mean, by the thread question, then yes, some rep watches are indeed water resistant (not waterproof, since that nomenclature is obsolete IIRC). But if you mean that $50 +- service offered by some dealers, as an add-on, I have to tell you very frankly that even when I was the NEWBIEST newbie here, and was buying my first rep watch...I never believed that. Instinctively, I knew it was a myth (so as not to say lie).

DUH. Tease. Yes, it's overpriced, but why is it overpriced -- and why do people keep on paying? Clearly there are those in it for the fashion. But curiously the ones who truly appreciate the history are the ones who fork down even more money, than your base 112 people. We are speaking about the pre-V straps going for $2.5k each, in another thread. That kind of person. Let me ask you this - Would you rather pay $5000 for a Rolex, or $5000 for a Panerai? Answer that, and I think we'll get closer to an answer. (Sorry if this reply wasn't about movements, but I'm going for motivation. Very few people who buy watches, know about movements)

WOW! The bugle that was sounded at Waterloo, and then at Balaclava. People this is historical GOLD. I get chills just hearing it. To put this into perspective: "Trumpeter Landfrey, a bugler during the Battle of Balaklava (Oct. 25, 1854), playing Charge of the Light Brigade; recorded on Aug. 2, 1890" This is the best spirit of the British -- whether in glorious victory, or ignominious retreat, we remember it all. I'm surprised Lord Lovat didn't have this bugle handy, instead of his piper, on D-Day.

Or Boca Juniors. It's beautiful, New Slicemaster. The TT is precisely the one I'm getting from Joshua soon! I see ElPrimerozen, who has the most gorgeous gen of this watch, is scratching his chin. Wonder why?

Exactly. Who in their right mind pays $$$ for a vintage Boba Fett action figure? Now an original Herm

**Magnificent** Longines must've been the Go-To-Watch when our grandparents were young, because you always hear of them when talking of inherited vintage watches.

I can't see any bimbos!

Oh Pugwash...his job isn't to kill, it's to defend. I see this thread descending needlessly into something else now, so I'm outties. Y'all know where I stand expressed in the post above.

Apparently the dog was dead, and I don't know about you, but I am even more sentimental about dead things, than living ones. Failing a clarification, this Marine should be shipped back home. I had a dog die when we were in Brazil. I came downstairs in tears, and the porter (a young man, probably not much older than this one, and typical for building porters in Rio, from the Northeast, illiterate and dumb as a post besides) said: "Throw it down the garbage chute. Why pay for the vet to remove it, when the rats will eat it overnight" It took EVERY ounce of humanity inside me not to throttle him on the spot. :angry:

I KNOW. It's unbelievable. Really, very close to the gen (maybe when you actually hold it, you'll see the finish is so much better, but man). It's poetic (whenever you see "O" instead of "Oh", e.g.), so not something one can translate easily BUT: O, call back yesterday, bid time return (Richard II/ Act III, Scene ii) Alors l

Very educated guess, and concisely written to boot. Given our peaks into the business here and there, this seems exactly what must happen. Unlike many people, I don't mind the markups, even if they are outrageous by Western standards. If a Rolex is less than U$5 to produce, and sells for $100, I'll pay. Psychologically, the fact these watches are located in the Far East, and the fact that I have nowhere near any kind of Canal St. near me, MUST play a role in my mind. I'm factoring in the plane ride, the hotel stay, the bartering for the best piece, and a thousand things I'd have paid for, for each and every rep I buy. Perhaps illogical, but true. Thanks, Gavidoc. I've received two very nice PMs about this, as well as approaching one person of East Asian origin myself to apologise/explain. All of them were gracious, and understanding. In today's poisoned PC-climate, where comics can't be funny, and shock jocks can't shock anymore, it's good to know some people take things the right way. Much appreciated. Anyway, back to the topic. Nice week!

Dad has the strap in black. Joshua originally sent it in brown, but it was awful. He did make it up to him, though. Having said that: Pretty... It's more mysterious for a Frenchman to have it in English, so one suggestion: "Defer no time, delays have dangerous ends" or "O, call back yesterday, bid time return" - William Shakespeare

Me ruv you folevah! Wow, I KNEW you'd use this strap. It's just so perfect with the Fiddy (I have two others from FxrAndy). Thank you so much, TeeJay for the shot! Now, where do you begin with SO MANY watches to praise. This makes my blood pressure rise, Rocky. Beautiful! *reads explanation -- whew!*

SEED YOU W*NKERS! Okay, actually like Corgi, uTorrent's info says I need a valid passkey. I went to that libitina.net site but apparently it's a devil-worshipping site (I'm not kidding). Their logo is "Bring out the Evil in You". Ironically, that's what reps do to me.

I can't click on this, Dani. It would break my heart (even if it were a Taliban doing it). Just to note that this Marine is apparently from Hawaii. EDIT: Another report is that he's stationed in Hawaii, but that he's from Monroe, Washington State. I cannot believe after all the stray dogs the Marines have adopted in almost 4 years of being in Iraq, of the manifold treats they've given to animals because the locals didn't have them -- that this should be the face of the USMC. This plays to the Redacted crowd, to the Valley of Elah crowd, who are only too willing to believe the worst of the military (any military). I'm checking the blogs as we speak, for more info. MSM are hopeless.

It's not because we don't want to give out the info, but because it's genuinely hard to say -- a matter of personal opinion which could well be very wrong. The only thing I can tell you is that I go to Jay/Silix for my cheap Rolexes. I go to Andrew/Trustytime for my ladies watches. And I've heard that Angus/Puretime has great Panerais. And of course, Davidsen is a Panerai-only specialist. Their forums and information are available only to supporters, but doing some research may yield tidbits here and there.

Gorgeous, Fendushi. Is Breitling the one marque that never has put a foot wrong? I can't find one watch of theirs, that looks off. (And that's after not liking Breits at first! Just like Panerai...)

After my Wristcheck extravaganza this weekend, I got lazy today. So, just a few snaps! MONDAY Yep, you guessed it. Still Feta1's SFSO -- here being lumed in my loo. TMI perhaps. TUESDAY DSN 113 on the Mario Paci Senape. :wub: There is no watch that this strap doesn't make look gorgeous.

You know, this reminds me of that time Rosie O'Donnell was being raked over the coals about her "ching chong" remark. The Imus incident and Dawg non-incident were in the future. She, with amazing lack of honesty, claimed in all honesty that she had no idea that "ching chong" was a slur, gasp horror, not her! I would've respected her a lot more if she had looked at the camera and said, ME SO SOLLY! So that's my reply to you, Rodwc.

That's awful, Ken! When I lived in Brazil, one can make the argument that that was also the case -- it was prohibitively expensive to live in Rio de Janeiro's "Zona Sul" for anyone but a middle-class person. The poor had to take 3 busses to their suburban homes, often hours-long ride to earn a few Reais, working as maids, chauffeurs, and other types of labourers. And they couldn't dream of shopping in the boutiques and supermarkets in Copa/Ipa/Leblon. However, things were much more affordable in their own areas. Perhaps that's a more apposite explanation than the one I gave. @Kenberg: I know this sounds sappy, but if I were a lady in that position, I'd love the guy who rescued me to the end of the world...

Never mind, Ferrariz. I just looked at the subdial again. You're all right there. That date thingie threw me. For the record, the seconds subdial at the 6 o'clock position on the 7750 movement, causes trouble. The IWC Portuguese is a prime example of such a problem -- some members even go to the bother of having the subdial "frozen" (gears removed from the movement, as it works overtime and grinds down). These are all terms you will have to acquaint yourself with, and hitting that Search will be invaluable to you. Just PM in case of need though! To start you off, a Daytona review with the seconds at six mention: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?s=&amp...st&p=309454

"Is this rokay?" "Rooks rokay to me" "Loleks leady to ship!"

Though this shouldn't make any of us preen, I always mention this to people complaining about sweatshops. Do RWG Americans recall the infamous Kathy Lee Gifford sweatshop labour scandal? She was selling her clothing label at Wal-Mart at profit, whilst the Hondurans who were making the garments were paid something like $0.72 per hour to make it. She was outted by a labour activist in the US, and went crying to the factories, vowing that the locals would earn a more decent wage. What she wasn't told, or because some people just don't grasp this, is that 0.72 U$ per hour in Honduras is "okay". A loaf of bread costs less than an American nickel. A bus ride doesn't even register in American dollars (in the parallel currency). I honestly believe that there are some people on this earth that think what they earn and spend in their countries, is what the Third World does too. Don't think for a moment I am arguing for sweated labour. Just for the perspective.