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Is the genuine one on the right this time????

A Miyota movement won't be a direct replacement and both the hands and dial will need work or replacement. The pinion holes are: Miyota 100/152/17 ETA 90/150/26 while two hands could be broached to fit and the final one could be slightly squeezed to fit, the dial feet are different and you may have problems with the stem height. Especially given that you are paying for labour, I would advice against this route. Like for like replacement will be less hassle.

@tyrantblade Good luck and best wishes mate. In the end alcohol is a poor substitute for a life you actually enjoy. There are a few of us here figured that out the hard way.

I sympathise, you are having rotten luck. ST2130 is an ETA clone, a Miyota isn't. To the best f my knowledge parts can be got for the ETA clones, maybe an economical repair is possible. People who call themselves watchsmiths vary from guys who replace batteries and straps to guys who can create a watch from scratch. I have no idea how good yours is, but maybe it might help to shop around a little.

Thank you @legend, fun and informative. I really thought I was gaining knowledge, I clearly still have much to learn and I realised that when all the real detail experts weighed in on the other side. I guess we finally know who builds the best Sub and it isn't the factories.

^^^Ocean Pro, very nice.^^^

I wouldn't be worried about my watch as much as my trousers

Every day is a school day, I am constantly amazed by the depth of knowledge and skills here. My background is Robotics, I have had some education in basic metal working skills, a basic competence in welding, machining, properties of metal and so on, more so I am informed when dealing with outside contractors than for the practical application of the skills. I use 316 constantly as a lot of our machinery is for food or pharmaceutical use. Never to my knowledge have we used 904L. I was aware of the cause of the pitting on old Rolex and other diver watches. You will know for sure, but I doubt many professional divers, actually dive regularly in a 10-20,000 Dollar watch when modern dive computers are cheaper, more robust, more reliable and I think mandatory for some work. Rolex long left the tool watch market, the whole thing is a legacy now, divers watches, pilot watches, motorsports chronometers. All have a fascinating history, but are no longer the tool of choice for their original job. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, we may not think much of using 904L in reps, but the OP's original question has opened an interesting thread.

There is wisdom, if I had used that method I would have been right 50% of the time, which is much better than my current score.

I've read many times that Rolex has it's own foundry, including here https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/inside-rolex but thinking it over, your view that they buy in ingots makes sense and I suppose they could still reasonably claim to have a foundry for PR purposes. You explained the techical differences much better than I could have, As you said the major down side of 904L that it isn't as easy to machine. Also I think that it is less scratch resistant? I believe Rolex and others use a combination of surface heat treatment and coating. So the only real result of using 904L for reps is that the price will increase, perhaps quite a lot.

So that is the history of the Nastymariner ? Most imortant point of note is that the series ii you now drive is way cooler than the Disco. Disco has a better chassis though which is why I like the looks of one and the chassis of the other I'm still surprised, I thought you would be all Dana axles, small block, rock crawler

I wouldn't get too excited. Rolex used to use 316 like everyone else including the reps. Rolex has it's own foundry works and makes it's own 904L to it's own formula, which is chemically a little different from commercially available 904L. If Noob does start using 904L it is likely doing so for marketing reasons rather than any real World improvement on the replication. To the human eye there is precious little difference between any of the three metals and I would rather see effort going into other aspects of the replication.

Hello and welcome, there seems to be a lot of interest in this watch over the last few days. Make a cup of tea, scroll to the top of the page and type 116660 into the search box and start reading ? There is a wealth of information on this rep. Oh wait I already pointed you there. Sorry I didn't recognise the user name.

@Nanuq, seen a couple of little green rep points wandering around your part of Alaska?

I like it too, perhaps not a 24/7/365 strap, but dressed casually and relaxing it's quite playful as the fashionistas would say. Would look good on any watch with red lettering on the dial.

Toro can ship from Spain. I'm not absolutely certain about others, but I think some do.

Any of the crew should be able to sort that out for you. You could pick a victim and PM them or scroll up, click on more, then support and ask there.

Welcome to the forum, glad you already found it useful. We like when people take the time to read before jumping in with questions we have answered many times before, we like when people introduce themselves and we like very much members who contribute and help new members. Sounds like you will fit right in and two reputation points on ten posts is a blistering start.

The listings I was looking at are for a gold plating service, which I think would be cheaper and safer for such a low volume.

Thank you @slay. I see exactly what you mean now and accept your points about the blue hands and screw down pushers. Your watch is a beauty and like your other builds I wouldn't say no, but different folks, different strokes and I prefer Daytonas with a black bezel. Wouldn't do for us all to be the same anyway.

I've seen a few listings on eBay. This is the first one I found on a quick search: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gold-Plating-Service-/232179470488?hash=item360ef99098:g:oM4AAOSw2GlXGgnZ Might be worth a search and a couple of enquiries.

I have long admired albino Daytonas, that is beautiful. Apart from having Daytona on the dial and no Oyster it looks very similar to the 6263 albino dial. Is that the case and could your source produce a 6263 dial please?

I can see your pictures now. That is rather lovely, please share more details.

Some years ago I had some small items gold plated by a working goldsmith. It was quite inexpensive and there are options of using a low carat gold or even an alloy of gold. Would it be an option to get a couple of dials plated like Tempus Machina do and see what they turn out like?