lemonvr6

looks pretty good to me, is the pearl decent, I can't really tell from the pics. http://www.watchmaker9.tv/products/REFURB-SUBMARINER-16610-2007-Z-SERIAL.htm

No implication at all- that's exactly what I said and most everyone here knows it's true, whether they care to admit it or not.

I'm here for entertainment. Idle curiosity I guess. Let's not pretend for a second that people don't buy reps to be something they aren't.

I was once attracted to the idea of "cheating" the system with a rep. I then learned that $200 fakes feel like exactly that on your wrist.

I'd say that 99.9% of ALL rep owners are trying to do just that. Its far more elegant to pretend otherwise, though, isn't it? That said, I have no reps.

I tinkered with reps for quite a while, and eventually became dissatisfied with never-ending "new" versions, QC issues, inaccuracies and the general slimy feeling of wearing a fake watch. While the allure of getting a "deal" on something that is 99% or even 100% visually accurate to the original is tempting, it really isn't worth it. I didn't like wearing my reps, even the ones that were virtually indistinguishable from the real thing. *I* knew they were fake, and that was all that mattered. I get real satisfaction when I look at my gen Panerai and shudder when I look at the rep that I wisely dumped so long ago. The ~$35,000 of gens I own reward me every time I wear them. The old reps are wasted time. The same goes for my Louis Vuitton luggage. Its real, and whether or not people think its fake, I carry it with pride.

Do you really think the dealers are "losing money" with repairs? These things cost nothing to make, and the "errors" are engineered in. Do you really think it takes eleven revisions of a fake directly copied from a gen to be accurate? The money is in volume. If some suckers will pay for ten ever-improving versions of a watch, why make a perfect rep on the first try? There's an awful lot of self-entitlement here for people supporting the black market.

I have a gen J12 chrono with the white diamond bezel. Doesn't bother me one bit. Just a matter of how comfortable you are with yourself.

Yes. I bought a rep for the exact purpose of seeing if I would want to keep the gen. This Led to this And this And finally this

Here's some of my bling. Best version money can buy.

The diamonds certainly do make the watch...

A rep wrist shot the real deal and the REAL deal.

I have a gen 41mm chrono with white diamonds, and fakes are very easy for me to spot. Most people can't tell the difference, however.

TT sub. I can't figure out how to release the bracelet from the case. There are no holes on the sides...

Have a trusty "perfect" sub, stripped out a bracelet lug. Looking for the best replacement possible. Please help.

I'm curious, then as to why you feel there is such a strong demand for reps. All of the points TVT made are valid and likely much closer to the truth than you are comfortable with.

Picked it up last week from NYC

Bezel font is wrong, datewheel font is wrong, bracelet bolts are of incorrect design, different fastening technique for links. The ceramic color and feel is very close.

The EL 38mm J12: The gen Chrono I bought a few weeks later: All in all the rep felt really good until I got the gen. It's a good rep, and will fool most people, but is glaringly obvious to a gen wearer.

Lever is wrong shape where it meets the crown, font is wrong, lever pin is goofy looking too. Still the best 000 rep I've seen.

The gen j12 has silver pins as well.

Overall it's a really good rep. To 99.9% of the population, it's indistinguishable from the original. -The "1" on the "15" on the bezel is the wrong font. It should be "|5" - The bracelet is, as far as I can tell, nonadjustable and lacks the silver pins in the six links closest to the clasp -The bracelet has screws holding it together on the inside, the gen only has small dimples on the inside. The ceramic looks very similar, the rep having less of a pearl effect than the gen, but not by much. The rep is also a bit lighter. I would only be concerned about it being spotted as a rep by someone either wearing a gen or working in a watch store. The pic of the rep is bad, but you can see it next to a gen. Rep Gen