JamesJackson Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 What does everyone think about the MBK Submariner 5513 on eurotimez? Is the watch in the pics really a rep? Any review or pics would be great. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 I believe the opinion is that the 5513 is maybe the most accurate sub yet (wm9 subs may have changed that tho) and the one pictured on eurotimez website is EXACTLY what you'll receive. in fact if you buy from him request photos, and he'll send you the photos of your EXACT watch before shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seal63 Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 My 1665 GWSD from Eurotimez is perhaps better "live" than on the photos on the site. It's really wonderful,IMHO also without modding... :wub: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnBeever Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 What does everyone think about the MBK Submariner 5513 on eurotimez? Is the watch in the pics really a rep? Any review or pics would be great. Thanks Chris’s MBW 5512 is also quite nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJackson Posted June 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Thanks based on what everyone has said and the pictures its safe to say that the lume is real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Thanks based on what everyone has said and the pictures its safe to say that the lume is real? The lume won't shine much at all, if any. That is just like a 30+ year old tritium dial- the lume is basically dead. But I agree w/ Highoey and Shawn, the 5513/5512 MBW's are excellent reps. With a better acrylic pearl and some modding of the cg's, they are really cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 My MBW/MBKs are more than 2 years old & the factory may have changed the current design, but my stock dials glowed far too brightly for a 30 year-old tritium dial (which should have little or no glow at all). This is also 1 of the biggest design flaws on many aftermarket dials (the use of modern lume on what is supposed to be a vintage dial) & 1 of the main reasons I replaced (& separately relumed) my aftermarket dials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Interesting, Freddy. It just goes to show that things are always changing. My WM 1680 (which is basically an MBW) has no glow to the lume- it's a 4-5 year old rep. And of course, as we've seen with Cats MBW 1680 recently, the dials and cases are changing and not necessarily for the better. But as an aside, I kinda like the relumed dials on a rep- you can't (or shouldn't) relume a gen, so that's what I think is cool about a rep- who cares, it's still only a rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 anyone know why some 5512 dials list the meters first while others list the depth rating in feet first THEN meters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 The story I've always heard was the early dials were meters first- European, kinda. Then due to the American market, around 1970 or so, they started with the feet first dials. Meters first are an indication of an earlier dial typically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry563 Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 I bought a GWSD and 1680 from TTK several years ago. Since that time I installed better crystals, added a new pearl and insert and drilled the lug holes. They look perfect and are the prizes of my collection. I REALLY want one of Eurotimez 5512's but I have read that the new version of MBW do not accept aftermarket/gen parts. I can live without changing the crystal but that insert and pearl has to go so the question I have is.........will the latest 5513/5512 accept without modding a aftermarket insert specifically the poor mans watch corner inserts? These have gen measurements. This plus an otto frie pearl and the watch then takes on a close to gen look. Does anyone know if this insert will now fit the latest MBW 5512/5513? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sconehead Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 I bought a GWSD and 1680 from TTK several years ago. Since that time I installed better crystals, added a new pearl and insert and drilled the lug holes. They look perfect and are the prizes of my collection. I REALLY want one of Eurotimez 5512's but I have read that the new version of MBW do not accept aftermarket/gen parts. I can live without changing the crystal but that insert and pearl has to go so the question I have is.........will the latest 5513/5512 accept without modding a aftermarket insert specifically the poor mans watch corner inserts? These have gen measurements. This plus an otto frie pearl and the watch then takes on a close to gen look. Does anyone know if this insert will now fit the latest MBW 5512/5513? Look here, http://www.yukiwatch.com/index.html , they used to sell on e-bay as well, good quality, I think around $450 for a case but accepts all gen parts, including movement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry563 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 The new MBW 5513 is fine with me ...I just need to know if it will accept a gen insert? Does anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 hmmm. they all accept gen inserts with some sanding. if you mean unmodded, well im not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry563 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 My 1680 and GWSD both accepted a PMWC insert (same size as gen) without and sanding. Just popped right in...perfect. These watches were the old style MBW which I bought from TTK. Does anyone know if the current MBW also accept gen inserts without sanding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I bought a 1680 from Reg. Could be an MBW or not but it ain't the old school quality MBW as it used to be. I have a gen insert in the bezel which fitted without any sanding. Just to be shure there was some glue inserted to make shure it keeps in place. Carpe DIem Cats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 The PMWC 5513 insert fits (without mods) a MBW 5513 I got from Eurotimez last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry563 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Freddy: Thanks for the insert info. Will a Clark crystal also fit the new MBW 5513? It looks as if the lug holes on these models have been made larger to fit gen sized springbars...is this true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry563 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I have another question/request. Someone on here PMed me when I asked if I could find a modder for my 1680 and 1665. So I sent him my watches and he ended up doing a not so great job. Anyway.....with the MBW when you take off the end links there are two "washers" that are on the spring bars that keep the end links from having too much "play". Two of these washers is missing and I was wondering if anyone had a couple of spares they could pop in an envelope and send to me? I am located in NJ USA. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Freddy: Thanks for the insert info. Will a Clark crystal also fit the new MBW 5513? It looks as if the lug holes on these models have been made larger to fit gen sized springbars...is this true? Clark's Rolex crystals are made to the same dimensional specs as the gen Tropics & both should fit the MBW. The lug holes on the stock MBW are too small to fit the 2mm springbars that came with the gen 5513. Many owners drill the stock holes out themselves & replace the springbars with gens or gen-sized aftermarket bars from ebay. There are numerous tutorials that you can find via Search which describe the procedure. I have another question/request. Someone on here PMed me when I asked if I could find a modder for my 1680 and 1665. So I sent him my watches and he ended up doing a not so great job. Anyway.....with the MBW when you take off the end links there are two "washers" that are on the spring bars that keep the end links from having too much "play". Two of these washers is missing and I was wondering if anyone had a couple of spares they could pop in an envelope and send to me? I am located in NJ USA. Thanks. I have never seen washers used for springbars. If the correct springbar is fitted to your watch, it should not require any spacers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry563 Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Freddy: So the latest version of MBW will accept a Clark crystal and a PMWC insert? I thought the latest MBW were dimensionally altered so that gen parts would no longer fit? Can you tell me which crystal is the right one for a 5512 or 5513? Regards and thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 T-19 for either 5512 or 5513. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry563 Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Of the two which is the better choice? I was looking at the Eurotimez website and I cant decide. Is one closer to gen than the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 I'd say they're about the same. The 5512 is rarer in the real world because it's a chronometer rated movement. The 5513 is the plain jane dive watch and the least expensive of the two. As far as the MBW's, it would really just be your preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 I like the 5512, then again I also like the 1680. the 5513 would be more believable, so if youre trying to pass it off in educated circles it might be like waving a red sub around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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