sul Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Last rep IWC what I bought movement is chinese 6497, but it has some kind of a" dual-winding box". Very pleasant surprise was that this dual-winding really work`s. Power reserve is surprisingly good- approximately 4 days ~80hour. Not bad for a ~110$ rep and watch is quite accurate time keeper also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member X Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Wow, that's not bad at all. Pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sul Posted September 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Wow, that's not bad at all. Pics? Unfortunately I don`t have camera with macro lens, but I try to take some pic`s soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I would like to see this as well. The 6497 is mechanically designed to run for 48 hours, I am really curious to know how they doubled this run time, it's like saying your car suddenly gets twice as far on the same gas tank and engine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Where did you get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Double winding? Is this maybe a double barrel configuration? Seems unlikely... But who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfire Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I think everybody would be interested in seeing pics of it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Double winding? Is this maybe a double barrel configuration? Seems unlikely... But who knows? Possible, but where do you put the extra barrel? There isn't any spare room on a 6497 to fit another barrel the same size as the original one, which is what you need to get the extra reserve... Something doesn't sound right, pics will clear it up. No macro lens needed for the pictures we need, just a clear in focus picture of the movement at the highest resolution your camera has. Make sure it's in focus even if it means being 2-3 feet from the watch, you can then crop the picture with any photo program (I use paint which is standard with windows), post the picture of the cropped shot and we'll have a look see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sul Posted September 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Yesterday I did some pic`s, but I was to tired to upload them somewhere. Today probably I will edit my post in the evening and add some pic`s. I was surprised also if watch was still live and working on third and on fourth day morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sul Posted September 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 I can`t edit my previous post. But here are pictures. Maybe I am wrong but this my not be 6497 movement at all...my bad-wrong topic title , it look`s different than 6497. Sales description say`s that 6497...but I don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stukov Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 What was the source of this? Link please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Its dual winding for shure, but no unitas version of any kind. Interresting movement though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Never seen one of theses either, i have had 50 to 52 hour out of asian 6498/7 in the past, but that is no 6498, 80 hours is a nice power reserve where is this from?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 No idea what the model of that movement is. It certainly isn't a ETA or 6497... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sul Posted September 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Where did you get it? Sry for late replay, check Narikaa site, he is selling these model`s also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 I saw it on narikaas gallery yesterday, too bad its sporting the night/day indicator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seymur Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 It is 6497 as site says but I think moded version here on sell on Watcheden. http://www.watcheden.com/iwc-classics-moonphase-black-dial-with-custom-modified-unitas-6497-manual-movement-i-34876-p-1.html Never seen one of theses either, i have had 50 to 52 hour out of asian 6498/7 in the past, but that is no 6498, 80 hours is a nice power reserve where is this from?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 It is 6497 as site says but I think moded version here on sell on Watcheden. http://www.watcheden.com/iwc-classics-moonphase-black-dial-with-custom-modified-unitas-6497-manual-movement-i-34876-p-1.html Just because its on some website it doesn't mean its the truth, take wikipedia for instance. It is not even remotely close to any form of a unitas movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seymur Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Ok than not looking any unitas I am agree with you ..So what do you think which is than movement it is? Just because its on some website it doesn't mean its the truth, take wikipedia for instance. It is not even remotely close to any form of a unitas movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seymur Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 I think this is also dual wind but diffrently decorated http://www.watcheden.com/pic.php?p=BXRZKwBrBWJRcAFvAHpQVlJtVWEHNAQyVWdWZVExADEBJlosVTgBZwckCDgMJFF4Aj0DMFU1BHQBb1RiBWA= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 It is 6497 as site says but I think moded version here on sell on Watcheden. http://www.watcheden.com/iwc-classics-moonphase-black-dial-with-custom-modified-unitas-6497-manual-movement-i-34876-p-1.html nothing 6497 about it, not single bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 PTS Resources Z2015...more or less. Here it is: http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=303934 Maybe the autowind works are removed and a different plate installed for manual wind models with regular balance assemblies. Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 It looks like a thin plate in the pictures added over the back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sul Posted September 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) It looks like a thin plate in the pictures added over the back Yes that is right, I open my watch and there is thin plate over the movement, but unfortunately again I did not take pic`s from movement himself. Max power reserve what I got was 86 hour( fully winded). Don`t know how long-life that movement is but first(user) impression is - not bad. It can be this movement: http://www.ptsresources.com/watch_automatic_01.htm Z2015 Mechanical Skeleton Watch Movement copy/paste from other forum: This movement was probably manufactured by the Liaocheng Watch Factory as it uses an identical keyless-works as their F-series open-heart. The design is probably owned by PTS rather than Liaocheng as the catalogue says "HK registered design application number 0802073.3" PTS only claim ~72 hours for this one. So I reckon you're right that it probably has a couple of 40 hour springs. As these are working on the Favre-Leuba/Slava principle, they don't add up to 2 x 40 hours. The primary purpose of the double mainspring is to ensure that the spring delivering the power to the train remains 'full' for more than a day, ensuring auto-like torque consistancy even when the watch is left to wind down for a bit. Edited September 17, 2009 by sul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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