Member X Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I'm confused... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I have just gathered together all the bits for my own franken - a gen case (came complete with a display back which I sold for almost the same as I paid for the complete package, so case with hesalite crystal / crown / pushers cost £45GBP net), NOS 321 dial & caseback (Watchco via Ebay £140GBP), movement holder, dust cover, hands, clamps etc (Cousins UK £70 - 80GBP), Lemania movement from a Tissot Seastar chrono (Ebay £80GBP). The whole thing will cost about £300 - £350 + cost of a movement service, although it's running fine and keeping excellent time. To complete the 321 franken I already have a NOS 1171 bracelet with the correct curved ends. Apart from the movement being signed Tissot rather than Omega, and having a silver rather than gold finish this will be 100% accurate to the nicest version of the gen. The 1960's 321 Speedy has longer, finer dial markers and a polished silver logo instead of painted and it has a delicately shaped center chrono secs hand. Subtly different from the current watch but just nicer and more delicate IMO. At £350 it will be about 25% of the price of a scruffy gen 321 - not bad I think. After all, the genuine Omega parts & Tissot / Lemania movement will always hold their value anyhow. The case was probably a service replacement because it doesn't have a serial number on the 7 o'clock lug, but this is correct for the earlier 321 movement. The movement is well hidden underneath the solid pre-moon style caseback and dust cover, but Tissot and Omega historically had close associations so it's as close as I can get without a genuine Omega 321. If a 321 movement ever turns up at the right price they can be swapped over. The big choice is......do I get the new, replacement (Luminova) dial and hands relumed to an 'aged tritium' appearance or leave them alone?? What do you think? I think i am looking forward to seeing that, how old should this be 30years? Personaly i would leave it as it is and let it age naturally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMman Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 What do I think? This sounds awesome! But without pics it's a bigger tease than my signature GIF! I think I would leave the dial and hands be. The half life of tritium would render the dial of this vintage with just about, or at, zero glow. Tritium is no longer available, so if you were to get a vintage relumed it would be Luminova? A master at it would relume so it would look factory perfect. Besides, a 'redial' of a vintge watch is not unheard of, actually with regard to Rolex divers' watches, it's pretty common. A new dial (or hands) here is not a concrete 'tell'. The other course, if you wanted to preserve a 'vinatge look' would be to age the dial, patina the hands and indices so it WOULDN'T glow, but looked like old tritium. Man, that's some real WIS replica modding there. Hmmmmmmm. I was not familiar with the Seastar, so I had to Google it. The only model I found was 'bi-compax'. Three o'clock minutes totalisor, and nine o'clock running seconds. What do you plan to do for the six o'clock hour totalisor, or is there a tri-compax version as well? Good luck. This sounds like a very unique project watch I will be eagerly following. If you could source the 321? Wow, you beat the game up pretty well. Yes,there's a tri-compax version - I googled it just now and this is a pic of the exact watch that I picked up http://sometimeago.itsens.nl/staext/GetImages.php?type=default&prefix=1254004747 I haven't removed the movement from the case yet as I have been wearing it for a few weeks to check how it winds and runs. The case is small in comparison to the Speedy and variations of this Seastar must have been available for a few years as it comes with both the 321 and 861/1861 versions of the Lemania base movements. I had an automatic search for 'seastar chronograph' and 'lemania' on Ebay and they crop up fairly often. There are also some Hamilton chronos with the same movements. I'll take a few pics of the collected bits and pieces together with the donor watch as a 'before' and then follow up with the 'after' when it gets completed. I'm sure that a 321 will pop up sometime - comes to he who waits etc. Sod's Law, a 321 will appear immediately after I get this one serviced and assembled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllergyDoc Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I was just over at 1.1 sticking up for 'fakemaster'. Saw that. It's so you, though: sticking up for the downtrodden and the meek who will eventually inherit the Earth. Me, I think Fakie pretty much earned all the hazing he got there and on RWG1. I always liked the guy; many late night chats about gold and style, etc. And his Halloween avi was the best ever. You guys are kind of not quite getting the grasp of the whole "We need to get more members up in here" thing. A good number of the newer members are there for the porn, both to see and to post their own. Won't last long, though. How much of THAT can one take? Ok, tell those heathans, when your new server is up, they can expect another in house drive by 'Demsey'. Nah. Who doesn't like a good surprise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demsey Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 It's so you, though: sticking up for the downtrodden and the meek who will eventually inherit the Earth. WWCD? (What Would Clint Do?) Hell 'fakemaster' doesn't need me to stick up for him. I just don't like some people's self righteous arrogance, as worn by terribly flawed human beings themselves. It irks me. I mean honestly, what would Walt Kowalski think of 1.1? OK, kidding aside, you know, I pay attention, but then again I must not. I never got the whole 'fakemaster' deserves this and that stuff. All I remember is him showing up on RWG, amassing a HUGE database of scam sites that put RWG back up into the Google front page, doing some good reviews, and along with 'Rolexadict' and scant others was trying to make the old RWG a 'watch forum' again and were taking things in a good direction. Then he was at war with Dave (I mean who's side are you going to jump on there? Again WWCD? ) then JohnG piles on to the point he's a stalking tabloid paparazzi on a mission and Jean runs a poll to see if he should be banned or not? WTF? I must have been drinking heavily through that phase. Deservedly so. I can only imagine. Anyway I just thought it an odd thing to bring up in a "We need more interest here" thread. We need members. But not 'fakemaster' he's not one of us. Or 'Demsey' if he's not going to see everything our way that 'fakemaster' lover. Beggars being choosers? lmao If Clive, Jean and I opperated like that RWG would have been a one pony circus when the flock left. We would have let you in though Doc. You're OK. Oh and 'Meat'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadtorrent Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 lmao If Clive, Jean and I opperated like that RWG would have been a one pony circus when the flock left Aaah Clive...I miss his avatar...even the "censored" version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllergyDoc Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 I never got the whole 'fakemaster' deserves this and that stuff. All I remember is him showing up on RWG, amassing a HUGE database of scam sites that put RWG back up into the Google front page, doing some good reviews, and along with 'Rolexadict' and scant others was trying to make the old RWG a 'watch forum' again and were taking things in a good direction. You have forgotten: 90% of FM's posts were either smilies or one/two word replies. He did about 150 or so in one day, just to break the record for posts in a day. But, whatever. I'm tired of talking about Fakemaster and Dave, and all the other endearing miscreants. Back on topic: Houndoggie picked up his gen Speedy for $1,500. In Hawaii even. I could sell off 70% of my reps and pick one up, but I'm not that fond of the Speedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demsey Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 He did about 150 or so in one day, just to break the record for posts in a day. Oh. Ok then. That bastard. I can't beleive he would desecrate the hallowed ground of RWG Original Recipe with loonyness. They were right to chase him through town with torches and ban him from the castle. No wonder they don't want him, or me around RWGjr.jr. There is certainly no room for us there. What with all the marital aids posted in the Shout Box. And what not. But, whatever. I'm tired of talking about Fakemaster and Dave, and all the other endearing miscreants. Yeah. True, true. Back on topic: Houndoggie picked up his gen Speedy for $1,500. In Hawaii even. I could sell off 70% of my reps and pick one up, but I'm not that fond of the Speedy. Yeah, I'm realizing that as well. There have been quite a few mentions to their availability. I've seen the modern ones at Costco. Reasonable brand new actually. Would prefer the vintage tho'. Besides, anyone with coin can get the gen. I've made a game of waiting for the better replica. Meh, everyone needs a hobby. Gonna follow PAMman's progress here. The Moon Speedy and perhaps Tudors' divers. That's all I'm keen on now. See ya' 'squint.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdoc Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 (edited) here is my cheapo quartz moonwatch with the acylic domed glass mod : Quartz still bother me when I am looking at it… but it keeps time and the subdials are better than the manual one Edited November 19, 2009 by docdoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rek001 Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 doc, where did you get this from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 paint that rehaut satin black doc and you got a pretty accurate looking moon watch. ARGH. I MIGHT have to buy one of these now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurotimezhelina Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 NO!!!! Helina! It's not "all the gentlemen"! It's ME!!! ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME! I'M the one that came to your rescue! You should bestow the grace of your soft, seashell pink hand on ME, not any of these other pikers on here. I'M your brave and strong champion, with my rippling muscles and six-pack abs, tough enough that I practice "Ultimate Fighting" as a side-hobby, but also gentle enough that I love to play with kittens and small children. MEEEEEEEE!Besides, Shundi and I aren't mutually exclusive (as I found out ACCIDENTALLY when I walked in on him and Two Tone that one unfortunate and extremely hurtful time!) I hope I wasn't too out of line with my snarky remarks. I'm just frustrated over the modified 7750 stall on the Speedmasters. You understand. I'm really not like that.So, seriously, how about a body shot? Spidey, so sorry to have hurt your feelings..As you see I'm getting pretty popular as a lonesome woman on the board so I figure I better keep my doors open ... - but YOU will always be my number one booty call! (ok, now I'll straighten my business tie and leave you guy's to the subject and seriousness ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Now i like Helina Got a sense of humor. How about letting us see that business tie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdoc Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 (edited) I got it from watcheden after I read condemore review. But when it arrived I realize the case and bezel was a little bit thick. I had this old case lying around that I bought about a year ago from ioffer and replace it as it is thinner and more accurate to the gen according to the pics I saw and the display at the watchsmith. I swap the crystal for an acrylic domed sternkreuz I get from AndyFx, but screw it and broke it while being to hurry (never too hurry with watch !). So I bought another one and finally get the watch done. The 2 main flows are the claps wich belongs to a seamaster, I guess, and the Quartz movement and its 6 o'clock seconds ticker. I found this while browsing. Damn inflation !!! 235$ for a moonwatch that is what I am calling a deal. The real deal for the price of the rep… 30 or so years apart ! Edited November 20, 2009 by docdoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rek001 Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Thanks, doc! I'm going to get one from Tony soon. Gotta love those quartz bargains. Nice find on the ad - isn't inflation something? Although, the average white collar annual salary back then was $11,000. And I think Helina just got herself some new customers, with that healthy sense of humor. Very charming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmquark Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 I have just gathered together all the bits for my own franken - a gen case (came complete with a display back which I sold for almost the same as I paid for the complete package, so case with hesalite crystal / crown / pushers cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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