hackR Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 still learning, i am...and currently own and/or have owned a number of PAMs...some of my dials have had a nice matte/semi-gloss sheen to them (my 219 with LH dial) and some have a flat finish to them...i'm not at all sure what the gens have - as it's not always easy to make out the details in pix...soooo - is there a rule of thumb and/or some way to know what's "right"?...does it vary by model or PAM era or what?...IMO, i absolutely loved the semi-gloss sheen of the finish on the LH dial...just wondering?!...especially with reps - dials made/sold by LH, DSN, FGD, cartels, creatures from another planet... R- Examples below: PAM 112h PAM 117 PAM 219 PAM 252 etc, etc, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drulee Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 For the 111 sandwich dials, the LH is supposed to be closest to the genuine. The 117 tobacco dial is close, as well. The 252, if it is the "cobalt blue" one, is also accurate. Not sure about the others though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackR Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 thanks, Doc!... can i assume that some PAM models have a matte/semi-gloss finish and some are flat?...the sheen on my 219 LH sandwich is very sharp and noticeable, while my old 112 was more flat...so wondering if that is just differences in manufacturers and/or what the real dials have for finish... R- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucesreps Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 What about a 000 Logo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_Squared Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 HackR - when did you get your LH 219? I think the latest version (v.201c) is not as glossy as his older dial. The sheen on mine looked pretty good compared to gen and not shiny like his older dials. I was thinking of getting it re-textured by flav but will see ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drulee Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 thanks, Doc!... can i assume that some PAM models have a matte/semi-gloss finish and some are flat?...the sheen on my 219 LH sandwich is very sharp and noticeable, while my old 112 was more flat...so wondering if that is just differences in manufacturers and/or what the real dials have for finish... R- I'm not sure how accurate the LH 219 is, as it seems too glossy. But the finish on his 111 dials is supposed to be like the gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_Squared Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) I'm not sure how accurate the LH 219 is, as it seems too glossy. But the finish on his 111 dials is supposed to be like the gen. I agree that it looked a bit too glossy to me as well. It could be his older 112H dial or just how the pics are taken. Also, does the font look white to you or ivory in color? Edited December 16, 2009 by R_Squared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 This is a great idea for a thread. It would be nice to have a mini DB / Thread that has this additional dial information. My DSN 177 and 112 are just a bit north of Matte, but not quite semi... Gens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 To clarify, basic paint sheens are: flat/matte (same thing) usually 5-20 degree reflectivity satin usually 20-40 degree semi gloss usually 40-70 degree gloss usually 70-90 degree reflectivity varies by manufacturer and there are other sheens sometimes in between, for example low-lustre, or eggshell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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