nielest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Hi there, i was wondering if anyone could give a detailed tutorial on removing the datewheel function on an ETA 2846. To make the movement click to only 2 positions instead of 3? Also an inclusion of how it could be altered to non-hack would be awesome. I searched the forum for this and found that a member by the name Repaustria did a turorial, however i can't seem to find him as a member or a post by him. Did he get bannned? cheers!! PS: If you gurus have an extra few mins you could also maybe help chime in on: 1. i have a yuki pearl, it's hollow in the middle: what's the best thing for me to do to make it look like a vintage 5513 pearl? Must i put some stuff inside the hole? Should i toast it? Also i prefer the project to be non-lume just like authentic 5513. 2. i have a 5513 mbw dial coming in apparently with the lume in green, what should i do to kill the lume to make it authentic? Would popping it under some hot lights or toaster for a few secs do it? 3. I also have some tudor clark hands coming in. these apparently have a white lume? How do i kill the lume on that, toaster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 See this small arm/lever that the tip of my screwdriver blade is touching? This is the part that needs to be modified or replaced to achieve a two position non-date. There are small notches (for lack of a better term) that determine the set functions when you pull the stem. What you need to do is eliminate one of the stops. Here's a borrowed pic from stilty to illustrate: The one on the right is stock, whereas the one on the left is modified. ETA also sells this part with a two position notch as well. As for your other questions- For the pearl/insert, you definitely need a vintage pearl. I'd give you one, but I already gave away all the spares I had. Re dial and hands- MBW dials typically do not have any lume, unless it's been relumed. Usually they just have little painted plots (no luminous). If the dial is not lumed already, you can paint these plots with a color more similar to tritium. For hands, you can have them redone in a similar color as well. For what it's worth, I have gen dials from the 70's that still have some life to them. They're faint, but they're not dead either. My advice is to have either Zig or Vac relume in the tone/color of choice. The results are always quite nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbh Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) I thought the 2846 was a non hack movement. I only have one of them, but it's non hacking. Edited January 12, 2010 by kbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Last 2846 I had was non-hack as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilty Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 All the 2846 I have seen are non-hack. I usually install a stop lever from a 2836-2 to make it hack. But it is all a matter of personal preference. If your 2846 is "hacking", the lever can be removed, but I only recommend doing this if you have experience in assembling/disassembling movements. A lot can go wrong real quick! But, that is the best way to learn. "trial and error". You can order the part (for 2801-2) from a supply house to make it 2 position, but if you want to save $8.00-$12.00 (depending on shipping) and time, just mod the part. It is quite easy to do if you have a small file, care and patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nielest Posted January 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Thanks everyone! Great vintage gurus here at RWG!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 This is the part that needs to be modified or replaced to achieve a two position non-date. There are small notches (for lack of a better term) that determine the set functions when you pull the stem. What you need to do is eliminate one of the stops. Here's a borrowed pic from stilty to illustrate: The one on the right is stock, whereas the one on the left is modified. ETA also sells this part with a two position notch as well. Do you have the part number Ubi? I may want to do this to a 2783 movement I have for the Tudor build. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 I don't have the p/n handy, Ephry... Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 No worries man.I was able to get the 2783 going again based on this information. Are there any tutorials on the 2783:2824 movements? or clones? I could swear there is, but I cannot find it now. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eiderdaus Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 i have a gen cracked tritium pearl, if you are interested shoot a pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 ETA also sells this part with a two position notch as well. Do you have the part number Ubi? I may want to do this to a 2783 movement I have for the Tudor build. E swatch sells the 2846 version of the no date 2 position movement in their "swatch IRONY body and soul watch" its a "2841" movement but its not meant to be serviced so im not entirely sure if there are replacement parts specifically for this cal. since its a skeleton watch you clearly see the 2 notch keyless works @nielest toasting it wont kill the lume. ive painted over lume markers with acrylic paint and it has still faintly glowed through in the right conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Thanks highoeyazmuhudee. I will look out for those.I may need a barrel and some other parts for the 2846. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 I cant find the part we are looking for with my suppliers, the two position "winklehebelfeder" is 445/2 an on the tech paper work (2846 attached) it lists that part at 445/2 being the same for a 2836 as well, but by chasing the calibre back to the base of all these the 2801 the part number 445/1 appears in the assembly list (also attched as 2836 but includes 2801/2) this part 445/1 is available to order from my suppliers should i order some, will cost about €10 with tax and post to me2846.pdf2836.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 @FxrAndy, Thanks for the PDF. I will try to look for that part number to see if I can find it locally. This is good information. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneed12 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 swatch sells the 2846 version of the no date 2 position movement in their "swatch IRONY body and soul watch" its a "2841" movement but its not meant to be serviced so im not entirely sure if there are replacement parts specifically for this cal. The Swatch 284X movements also don't have holes drilled for screws to hold the movement tabs; they were intended to be used with plastic movement holders. Amazing what they'll do to cut costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Well i ordered the partsd and what i got were 3 position ones, i am going to look into another source now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Time to get out the file... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbh Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Time to get out the file... Agreed. It would be much easier to file one down than keep ordering more. Probably take about 10 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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