thogaa Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I just received a package with two of my grail watches The Panda Daytona 2008 Secs@6 And Audemars Piguet Silver sort of panda dial on black leather But these are both running awfully - jerkyness I have never encountered before on any of my reps. I feel kind of bad shipping both back to the dealer complaining that neither works as they should - but I just can't live with those seconds hands hacking like that. It's worse than a $5 quartz watch. Not what I expect of a high end rep. Would any of you accept this? Here's a couple of vids showing what you get for your money these days Panda Daytona Silver dial Roo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 They are bad but those two models are the ones that we all know can have problems with the seconds drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thogaa Posted March 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 They are bad but those two models are the ones that we all know can have problems with the seconds drive I'm not saying that my 3 other Roos are running like gens - but much much smother than this latest arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 (edited) Its the luck of the draw. These 7750 movements with modified and thus indirect drive seconds hand are prone to problems and are jerky per difinition. You can send it back, but who knows what you will recieve. Edited March 15, 2010 by slickdick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Thats really to bad, beautiful watches though. I personaly could not except a sweep as chopy as that, maybe on a cheep rep but not on a high end piece. The thing Is you might have to avoid these models all together unless the dealer can assure you that the watch has a proper sweep, good luck Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limestone Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Have a look at this post from Francisco : Improving the reliability of AP seconds at 12 movement He explaines your problem.. If you don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Have a look at this post from Francisco : Improving the reliability of AP seconds at 12 movement He explaines your problem.. If you don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deniz21 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 to bad to hear and see that both watches have these issus i hope your dealer can fix that.. i orderd a skyland avenger, i hope i dont have these probs with my movement, but never heard about that in the breitlings...why is this so often in the rolex and ap watches? can anybody tell me this please? DENIZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 to bad to hear and see that both watches have these issus i hope your dealer can fix that.. i orderd a skyland avenger, i hope i dont have these probs with my movement, but never heard about that in the breitlings...why is this so often in the rolex and ap watches? can anybody tell me this please? DENIZ No worries Deniz. This Is a problem thats not related to the Skyland Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deniz21 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 thanks mike , but ist the same movement in it? 7750 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 thanks mike , but ist the same movement in it? 7750 Running sec's @ the 12 and 3 and especially 6 have been known to be problematic, again no worries my friend Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheaton26 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 my latest roo is the same. i didn't mention it to my dealer because with my luck, i'd end up getting a worse one. anyway, hopefully The Zigmeister can sort it out when it goes for a full treatment. all the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thogaa Posted March 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I feel scammed with that Daytona! - I hope the dealer is able to make it better. My only other option is to throw it in the bin. I could never sell a watch like that to anyone else The AP also has to be better. My rubberclad and both themes are running better than this. I don't get how this could ever pass a minor QC. Guess there is none I'm gutted. $800 down the drain. Could never wear any of those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I feel scammed with that Daytona! - I hope the dealer is able to make it better. My only other option is to throw it in the bin. I could never sell a watch like that to anyone else The AP also has to be better. My rubberclad and both themes are running better than this. I don't get how this could ever pass a minor QC. Guess there is none I'm gutted. $800 down the drain. Could never wear any of those Thogaa cant you a least send them back for something else or get a $800.00 credit?. Im sure with some of the newer reps comming out you will have no problem using that credit. Keep us posted Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deniz21 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 i think i know how you feel, i was feelin the same as i saw the inside of my pam crystal...that was no qc and i was spendin 400 dollars in it.. send them back tomorrow, and dont bother you with them, and buy some other nice watches for the money...not one with seconds on 3 6 or 12 and the ploprof is coming end of this month anyways dont bother you so much man send them back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bike Mike Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Better shaped teeth would correct the AP ROO issue and make it smoother, but we can not expect they would do this. I don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 better try to send them back and get some different watches...I mean totally different models.... known to have smooth seconds so you can get your sleep back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anguz Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 That music on the AP video made me laugh. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bll Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 if you dont wanna that daytona anymore, sell it cheap to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scropper Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 The music on the daytona one is a fantastic piece - reminds me of my childhood bizarrely.... Anyone know the name of it? As for the watches - that sucks... Maybe when the movements have had time to 'bed in' they may improve. Doubtful though, probably best to get them serviced. With some lubing up and proper alignment they should be smooooooth in no time! S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Maybe it's just me, but personally, I'd tolerate it... I've had reps with movements which jumped as badly, but kept good time, and I think it's noticeable when you sit and watch the dial, as opposed to under normal wearing conditions... I admit, the ROO is definitely jerkier than the Daytona, but personally, I wouldn't write the watch off... I agree with Gran's comment above: Ship back for totally different watches, if you can't tolerate it in 'regular wear', as opposed to 'under observation'... Sorry to hear you're not happy with your purchases... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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