w0lf Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Thought I'd share what I woke up to this morning: PAM188G PAM196G Both with ETA7753! I can see some flaws right away but all in all I'm very pleasantly surprised. Also, looks like a destro 'mellow yellow' T-S-T dial has been brought back! It'll need a re-lume and -,- removal but it's a treat like no other! It's exciting times! Update - the price is $860 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Just had a look at the 196- It does indeed look quite nice, and I noticed it's without that extra little tick after the 12:00 Wonder how much these are going for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snrubb Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Photobucket says it is down for me. Arrrgggh! Ok back up now..... I am thinking those look pretty decent. The datewheel is almost good.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Photobucket says it is down for me. Arrrgggh! Yep, if anyone downloaded the pictures, any chance of re-hosting them please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSRep Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 "PHOTOBUCKET SITE MAINTENACE" - great!!! Thanks for sharing w0lf......will check them out later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyd3 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 "PHOTOBUCKET SITE MAINTENACE" - great!!! Thanks for sharing w0lf......will check them out later! The site is back up. Would like to hear about the flaws on the 196. It looks pretty good to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snrubb Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Aren't the numbers on the 6 O'clock subdial supposed to be lumed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Is it just me, or is there a HUGE gap between the crown and CG? Like, so big you can drive a car through it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I'm no PAM expert, but I know what I like, and I like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Is it just me, or is there a HUGE gap between the crown and CG? Like, so big you can drive a car through it? Any easy fix though, just trim the CG so it sits closer to the case, and get hold of a better, thicker crown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfire Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Now if only he'd sell that dial alone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK471 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 There are a lot of good parts about this watch. The dial looks good, DW font looks good. Hands look good. The crown and crown guard is a hot mess, but most people mod that anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snrubb Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 The "Tacymetre" and the rest of the printing on the bezel seems a little large.... Gen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest al12 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Wow!! I've been waiting for those. Time to contact DSN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lf Posted May 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Snrubb, The 6 o'clock subdial is lumed on the 250 not 196. I didn't have time to examine these before I ran off to work this morning but what I noticed was 188 had a extra 0 in the millesimation run # on the caseback but I wasn't going to get a 188 anyway so at least for me it's a non-issue The crown will get swapped immediately (Tourby we neeeeeeed your spring loaded T48!) so the CG cutout is not going to seem so large. The lume will be good enough not to worry about a re-lume, the dial & hands are excellent. The bezel profile is tall just like on gen and the old honpo case. The caseback will probably be thinner than the real deal and the A/R remains to be seen, however DSN has made some great advancements in his A/R so this one might be just right. The case has a rather pronounced strap notch but if I know anything about DSN cases, the strap will mount so close to the case - you might not even see it. All in all depending on the price point I think we may have a very nice offering.al, hold your horses mister, we'll get 2 and save on MG fees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 where is his 24a and other subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cskent69 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 A font on PANERAI seems a little off. Too pointy at the top. Hopefully he will sell parts. That bezel and CG are - not so good.A font on PANERAI seems a little off. Too pointy at the top. Hopefully he will sell parts. That bezel and CG are - not so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK471 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Imperfections aside, this is a really compelling offering.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lf Posted May 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Can someone elaborate what's wrong with the bezel aside from slightly thicker font? I don't have access to photobucket at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snrubb Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 A font on PANERAI seems a little off. Too pointy at the top. Hopefully he will sell parts. That bezel and CG are - not so good. A font on PANERAI seems a little off. Too pointy at the top. Hopefully he will sell parts. That bezel and CG are - not so good. You can say that again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lf Posted May 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Ok, I had a little bit of time to look at DSN's model and it does appear that the bezel fonts and tachy #'s placement is off. In addition it looks like L S M L is once again an Arial or similar family font.. Why ohh why cant you get it right. BTW the CG is not all that bad.. Not sure if the daylight got affected in the G year by CG transition from cont. to historic so it might be OK. I'd like to hear what chrono experts have to say about these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Can someone elaborate what's wrong with the bezel aside from slightly thicker font? I don't have access to photobucket at work. If I may try...the bezel is slightly wider and with lesser slope, just like the one that came on cartel V2 case in mid '07. It is also comes with thinner side profile making it look shallow, at least that's what I could pick from the photos in his Photobucket. The case in general isn't that great, though IMO but has potential. I haven't done any deep and detailed comparisons of the dials but that dial on 196 is by far the closest rep 196 Daylight dial I've seen so far. Hands are also great. DW is thicker but short of that gen font thickness. All in all good package for someone looking for Gen ETA-7753 powered Daylight. It gets thumbs up from me with slight reservations...but hey Others may disagree with my views and opinions, though. W0lf, mate - you sure that destro is from his new batch, it looks like the very destro dial he had available few years back and discontinued since. Also, I haven't see that good T-Swiss-T print under six on his dials for years now. I'm only hoping he isn't using old stock photo for his new batch of destro Marina dials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I will buy a 196. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lf Posted May 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 B, RE: the destro dial, I thought so too, I guess we need to ask him. That picture was in the pool of newly uploaded pictures along with all the daylights so I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanya Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 So are these better than the cartel 7753 versions?? (Lume and datewheel aside) I owned a beauty that I had modded up with T crown, Leo wheel and a slightly modded cg and everyone said the case shape was all wrong and that the only good daylight would be a modded EL case Daylight So is the case shape right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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