Defender110 Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 has anyone here made a El Primero Franken PAM?? i have a Rol. 16520 all NOS parts franken and would love to do a pam project with this movement! if you have done this project please post some pictures!! we would love to see these! this would an ultimate franken in my opinion, and i have seen some gen dials popup now and again. also if you have this dial currently i would be interested, pls pm/email anytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgchrono2 Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Is there a genuine panerai with el primero movement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lf Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 yep, pam 60, pam 74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteM Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 What about doing a 121? You could never get called out on that !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender110 Posted November 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 pam has used the el primero in quite a few models.and we have a decent 40mm case from the cartel.. i have seen the dials pop up from time to time.. and we know the el primero is avail nos, and used. now has anyone already done this project?? please show us. please. :-)common please show us if yo have done this project as my next gen is gonna be a pam w/ primero if i dont build it myself. Movements - OP IV The OP IV is Panerai's chronograph movement. It is based on the "high beat" Zenith El Primero.Its characteristic signature marks are small seconds at 9 and a date at 4, central chronograph seconds, and totalisers at 3 and 6.The variant of this movement used in the original PAM 52 chronograph did not have a date indicator, and in others with a date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 pam has used ... Who's Pam ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteM Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Theres a gen dial etc waiting for your movement in the parts section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweattdogg Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Theres a gen dial etc waiting for your movement in the parts section I was thinking the same thing. Both dial and gen crystal. Maybe you can get a package deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteM Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 I was thinking the same thing. Both dial and gen crystal. Maybe you can get a package deal. Good thinking. Then a case from cartel or MBW. I was recently getting a great lot of advice on the 40 case from W0lf and Pam-addiction. So if you want a link to a cheap but good rep 40mm case let me know. Only issue is the movement mounting but I am sure you can get the tab slots cut yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefcook Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Don't forget that 72, 74, 108 and 121 had see through case backs and the movement was decorated with PANERAI engravings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 PAM 168 does not use El-primero movement. It is fitted with a 7753. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulVanDyk Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 i wish cartel would rep that movement....love pretty much every single one of those PAMs with Zenith El Primero movement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosnik Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 just to lett you know : Perfect for "el Primero" (I only get on sale , it's a Domenico's dial.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteM Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 just to lett you know : Perfect for "el Primero" (I only get on sale , it's a Domenico's dial.) http://www.rwgforum....__1#entry761241 Thats a lovely dial !!! Great way to use that movement That would make a great franken project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 The case could be a problem? Were there any 40MM Chrono reps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulVanDyk Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 more like hands and DW would be a problem sourcing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 The case could be a problem? Were there any 40MM Chrono reps 108 AMG 168 Not sure if an El primo would fit , but at least there is a glass caseback version to show the movement off if it did work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Don't forget that 72, 74, 108 and 121 had see through case backs and the movement was decorated with PANERAI engravings... J- And here is your fatal flaw. I would build the Daytona or something else. -W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Right, forgot about the 168. I agree with W - go Daytona or prepare to break new ground and make sure you have the patience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender110 Posted November 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 everyone's advice is well taken. i take it that so far noone has taken a project like this to completion. i have a franken 16520 with all NOS parts. its gleaming and looks the business, and i have the parts to get another together..however i want to move on to another project, and most will understand that for most wis here its about the journey and not the acquisition. (as i have lots of watches and wear maybe three as max regularly) the display back is not really a deal breaker for me. only the WIS here would know the diff anyways. i am not going to send the watch off to AD for service, so who will ever notice that the watch has the wrong rotor? noone! i will never really be wondering... 'that guy across from me on the subway is looking at my pam franken .. do you think he knows that the engravings missing from my movement?' hes not going to see it! i will, but i will actually enjoy looking at the plain jane el primo column wheel movement through the sapphire casebaack, and if i eventually source a rotor great if not that would be ok or i might just mount a closed caseback. now.. i know someone here had the post sizes for the A7750 and the post sizes for a 3019? are they close enough that the hands could be broached to fit? and my other concern before getting into deep is if the movement(3019) will line up in the rep 40mm chrono case? items needed for project: rep 40mm chrono case 3019 movement w/ correct DW 3019 stem ar the crystal gen dial hands to fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Love to see you do this one. It would be a killer Franken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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