r11co Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 PS - I used to frequent this little hostelry on a regular basis: http://glasgow.openguide.co.uk/wiki/Bon_Accord I was in there two weeks ago. Full of prententious rugby playing types and the prices have gone through the roof. More people out the back than actually in the place thanks to the smoking ban... I don't drink beer at all these days (my gut is big enough thanks) apart from the occasional cold one in summer, but the barmaid down our local hates it when my crowd come in as three of them like their Bellhaven Best and it is a total bastard to pour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted October 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 beck's is the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest TTK Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 (edited) @slayer......expensive.......if I remember rightly you were the the guy that was bummin' his chat that you were earning 1000 Pounds a night behind your bar.....with the Ferrari and beautiful women draped across your bed....just gaggin' for it ...only you were too busy posting on RWG...suddenly you've developed deep pockets and very short arms.......scrimping pennies for a Happy Meal........I bet you could peel an orange in your pocket....! What were YOU doing visiting a university anyway......did they not tell you that you need to attend school first....even if it's only Sunday school or dinner school...it's a start.....! Beck's is the best Now I know for sure that you stick Mars bars up your bum to taste them.......! Most Scottish breweries actually add a small quantity of plaster So that's why I got 'plastered' when I was a youth...... The best BEER...is Belgian.....Chimay Triple Sec...Augustin Grand Cru.....or my personal favourite.....Piraat. All the rest are just sugarollywater....! Edited October 2, 2006 by TTK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r11co Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 The best BEER...is Belgian..... I am inclined to agree, although I am not too sure about this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthebhoy Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 The best BEER...is Belgian..... You're having a laugh. He's having a laugh. Theakston's Old Peculiar Old Speckled Hen Deuchars IPA We're supposed to be talking about beer! Ten good reasons to drink real ale by Charles Foster Britain is rediscovering, just in time, that some good things are not mass-produced, pre-packaged, hysterically advertised and celebrity-promoted. One of those things is real ale. The stereotype of the real ale drinker is laughably out of date. If you think of matted beards, mucky cardigans and huge bellies, you need to get out more. Real ale is live beer which continues to develop in the cask. This further fermentation makes the beer naturally lively. It is either pulled from the cask by hand-pump or, even better, simply runs out by gravity. Its blasphemous caricature, keg beer, is dead, pasteurised and filtered. It undergoes no secondary fermentation, and often nestles under a protective blanket of inert gas. It fizzes with injected carbon dioxide. Lager is a different style of beer, in which the fermentation happens at the top rather than the bottom of the vat. There is an honourable continental tradition of lager-making, and there are some magnificent cask-conditioned lagers to which all the real ale plaudits apply. But they are rarely seen here. The fair name of lager has been demeaned. The obscenely overpriced lad-fuel of the world has as much in common with real lagers as keg beer does with real ale. Here are ten reasons to reject what passes for beer in the licensed ale-houses of Britain, and to ask for the real thing for once. 1 - because real ale tastes of something In a recent Hobgoblin advert for real ale, a grotesque figure in a pub, cradling a pint of beer, sneers over his shoulder at a group of callow drinkers: "What's the matter, Lager-Boy? Afraid you might taste something?" The gibe is just. Have you ever wondered why the lager mass-producers market their stuff as best drunk ice-cold? It is because cold anaesthetises your taste buds. To chill beer to near freezing point is like injecting lignocaine into your tongue. It stops the punter finding out the depressing truth - that there is nothing there to taste. Drink lager at a temperature at which nerves work, and the manufacturers would be rumbled. Real ale, though, is more confident. Although the old obsession with warm beer is, thankfully, long gone, at physiological temperatures you can get an explosion of complex tastes. Of course you might not want that: you might want something which tastes of nothing, is more expensive than real ale, and eventually makes you fall over. If so, a simple intravenous injection of phenobarbitone would be more sensible. 2 - because real ale tastes good Not always, of course. Since real ale, unlike dead, pasteurised keg beer, is a live substance, still developing in the cask, it needs to be kept properly so that it develops properly. This demands skill on the part of the cellarman. You can load keg beer straight off the lorry, connect it up, and drink it. Since it is dead, it keeps for ever. But real ale is temperamental. If it is badly treated it will not taste good. Many a drinker has been put off real ale drinking after a visit to a pub which doesn't understand real ale. But to go back to keg beer is like opting for a lifetime of necrophilia because of one nasty experience with a living human being. But when it is good, it can be very, very good. The most pretentious vocabulary of the most poetic wine-tasters fails when confronted with good real beer. There is some memorable stuff lying in England's beer engines. One of the enduring caricatures of real ale drinkers is of the Reminiscer - the man who sits in the corner of the pub and tells you, sip by sip, of the pint of Old Scrotrot which he had in the Anencephalic's Head one June in 1972. The picture embodies and generates all the English prejudice against obsessive train-spotting types, but there's a reason for it. The reason is that there's something to remember. No one has ever said: "You get a marvellous 500 ml of EuroPiss in the Happy Slapper. Amazing, it is. Can't think quite how to describe it." The keg or lager drinker's Friday night diary reads: "Had 10 pints of the usual. Threw up. That left room for a Cat Vindaloo." You need 10 pints of that to create some sort of sensation, even if that sensation is simply nausea and eventual oblivion. You only need one cc of well-kept real ale. 3 - because real ale is good for you Strange but true. Since it is a live substance, each mouthful is a fecund soup of medically helpful micro organisms. I spend a lot of my life in fetid squats in hot, faraway places. The best possible training your gut can get for that is a regular diet of the real stuff. It will mean that you spend a lot less time squatting fetidly. Real ale is also heaving with B vitamins, iron and anti-oxidants. You will want to live longer in order to drink more beer, and are likely to be able to. Drink lager, and your quality of life will be miserable. Mercifully, since it is biochemically obnoxious and more often the drink of choice of violent people, you are likely to put out of your misery sooner. 4 - because you drink real ale in good places By which I don't just mean chocolate-boxy thatched pubs with real fires, and clay pipes, and steak and kidney pud, and parrots, and resident ghosts, and fiddlers, and farting wolfhounds, and skittles, and freezers full of wildlife, and huge-breasted bar maids with PhDs in Anglo-Saxon. But all these things are splendid, and you don't get any of them if the pub doesn't take its real ale seriously. What you can be sure of is that if a landlord can be bothered to nurture his real beer as he needs to do in order to keep it right, he can be bothered to nurture the other things in his pub, and is likely to nurture you too. 5 - because you don't drink real ale in foul places Sadly, of course, if the landlord couldn't give a toss about his beer, he is unlikely to give a toss about the pub, except as a mechanism for extracting money from the pockets of the gullible and ignorant. Real ale is like many rare and sensitive animals. It is driven out by noise and smoke and bright lights. It thinks that pubs are places in which to drink, talk, laugh, sing and play darts, rather than places for standing sullenly, fighting, and catching herpes from teenagers. 6 - because every pint of real ale is a blow for the little man against the huge multinationals Real ale is political. The multinationals hate it, and can't produce it properly. They have persistently bought up real ale breweries and then shut down the real ale brewing. They buy real ale pubs, and smash them up, banishing the real ale and making them conduits for their own beer. The pub chains hate real ale too. It requires skill and time to keep it well, and it therefore demands managers who are take an individual pride in their product. That sort of anarchic, workmanlike character doesn't fit well into the culture of grey, corporate blandness which organisational bureaucrats love so much. The profit margins on pasteurised beer and lager are always going to be bigger than on real ale. You never have to pour keg beer away: it emerged, tasting of nothing, from the vast chemical plant where it was manufactured, and, unless the pub is at the epicentre of a major nuclear catastrophe, will continue to taste of nothing whatever you do to it. Real ale goes against the trends. When the tendency is towards centralized mass production, generally abroad, real ale tends to be produced in small plants by eccentric individuals who talk anachronistically about "craft brewing". It is resolutely and distinctively local. The barley often comes from the farm next door, and the yeast was often swapped in a dark wood for a coracle. When the tendency is towards the production of absolutely uniform products, the real ale world glories in thousands of different brews, some of them only produced in volumes of a barrel or so. Drinking a pint of real ale from a micro-brewery is as effective a blow against globalisation as heaving a breeze-block through the window of the World Bank. 7 - because nice people drink real ale I think this follows from everything above. It is certainly my experience. With one caveat. Quite a lot of people haven't heard the real ale gospel. Those who have not heard cannot be damned. Of those who have heard and drunk, there are no decent people who go back to the ways of keg and lager. 8 - because idiots don't drink it Nobody, but nobody, really drinks keg beer or lager because, having investigated the matter fully and tried out real ale, they genuinely think that keg or lager tastes better. It objectively doesn't. But lots of things come into the decision about what to drink. If you are a philistine, you will like the things which go along with keg. You will like smoke and footballers' haircuts and fruit machines and big-screen TV and smelly toilets. If you are so lacking in conversational confidence that you need music thumping out in the pub to cover your embarrassing silences or stuttering ventures into speech, you are unlikely to want to, or to be able to, grapple with the complexity of real ale. If you are a sheep, you will, despite your basically decent urges, want to follow the people who opt for keg. Which brings me to my next point. 9 - because drinking real ale shows you're an individual There is strong cultural pressure to pretend that keg and lager are good things and that real ale is the province of folksy, smock-wearing mediaevalists. Millions of dollars of advertising money scream that lager is cool and gets you laid. Real ale, which is made by people rather than balance sheets, can't compete. In a face to face battle based on taste, quality, interest and basic bloody integrity, keg and lager don't dare to mince out of the corner towards real ale. There's no contest. But there are few voices at the moment which point out that the Lager Emperor has no clothes. Let it be shouted from the rooftops: he hasn't. Until the crowd acknowledges it, though, listening to the evidence of their senses rather than the cynical voices of the advertising boys, real ale will be the secret drink of a resistance army. 10 - because it is real ale The name says it all. It is real stuff for real people, drunk in real places for real reasons. Case rests JTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highflyingclive Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 (edited) Now I have heard everything. A Kraut complaining about someone else's accent Laugh? I nearly bought my own beer. Slay... go to Newcastle. The people there make Glaswegians sound comprehensible. But stay clear of the Home counties, there's a good chap. Demsey is coming here soon, so I am flying off the the Far East , tout suite. I don't need you arriving on my doorstep as well. Edit to add... the UK and, I believe, New Zealand, are the only countries in the world where the police are not routinely armed. Cool. Happy timekeeping! Clive Edited October 2, 2006 by Highflyingclive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 @johnthebhoy Theakston's Old Peculiar Old Speckled Hen Deuchars IPA Of the three, I only know the first: really good stuff. Must try the other two.... My favorite Belgian: Corsendonk. A reviewer's description: "It has an incredibly tenacious, rocky head, which tastes of vanilla ice-cream. The nose is also rich in vanilla, with some spicy notes (coriander?) and some zest. In the mouth it is initially quite sweet, with zesty bitterness (limes) that becomes more pronounced towards the finish, along with a spirit-like kick - more vodka than brandy. The finish itself is reasonably short, though the light honey malt flavour lingers for a little longer, but leaving the palate clean. This is a superbly balanced, well-rounded beer." Sounds tempting, doesn't it? As strange as it may seem: "The beers are made elsewhere and are not unique for Corsendonk; the same beers are marketed by other brands as well." The beers * Corsendonk Agnus (made by Du Bocq, same as Moine Triple) * Corsendonk Pater (made by Bios, same as Bornem dubbel) * Corsendonk Blond * Corsendonk Bruin * Corsendonk Christmas Ale * Corsendonk Abbey Brown Ale (brewed by Brewery Van Steenberge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted October 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 @slayer......expensive.......if I remember rightly you were the the guy that was bummin' his chat that you were earning 1000 Pounds a night behind your bar.....with the Ferrari and beautiful women draped across your bed....just gaggin' for it ...only you were too busy posting on RWG...suddenly you've developed deep pockets and very short arms.......scrimping pennies for a Happy Meal........I bet you could peel an orange in your pocket....! What were YOU doing visiting a university anyway......did they not tell you that you need to attend school first....even if it's only Sunday school or dinner school...it's a start.....! Now I know for sure that you stick Mars bars up your bum to taste them.......! So that's why I got 'plastered' when I was a youth...... The best BEER...is Belgian.....Chimay Triple Sec...Augustin Grand Cru.....or my personal favourite.....Piraat. All the rest are just sugarollywater....! look, if you dont want to run to Kenberg again and cry because you started [censored] and I then insultet you BACK, shut the [censored] up! We had this already, and you went crying to Kenberg, so please, shut the hell up! My life is none of your business, I dont care if you frequent bbk hookers, and you should not care how I make a living or what I have to pay for! And you also need to remember that overturn <> profit If you want some, I#d be glad to have you here and we can settle things from man to man! But I guess you are only big behind your keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r11co Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 look, if you dont want to run to Kenberg again and cry because you started [censored] and I then insultet you BACK, shut the [censored] up! We had this already, and you went crying to Kenberg, so please, shut the hell up! My life is none of your business, I dont care if you frequent bbk hookers, and you should not care how I make a living or what I have to pay for! And you also need to remember that overturn <> profit If you want some, I#d be glad to have you here and we can settle things from man to man! But I guess you are only big behind your keyboard. Oh dear..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TTK Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 (edited) nd you went crying to Kenberg, Thanks for the laugh......I've never run to a Mod in my puff......I fight my own battles....and why I would need a Mod to deal with you is beyond me......! So.....hit a nerve did I ...big boy.....lighten up.....you wouldn't last ten minutes in Glasgow......they'd be ripping the [censored] out of you left ..right and center....what a contradiction in terms....a sensitive Ethel Merman.....! I#d be glad to have you here and we can settle things from man to man Ooohhh.....handbags at 50 paces........tell you what....after you've saved up all your 'waitress'...tips.......next time come to Thailand and we can have WWII all over again......it'll be the same outcome tho'.... Or perhaps not....maybe you'll shoot me with your blank firing P22 replica...or have me done over by your Mafia friends.......heck you could even have me exhausted to death by a bevvy of celebrity model girlfriends...from your harem....... Edited October 3, 2006 by TTK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r11co Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 next time come to Thailand and we can have WWII all over again......it'll be the same outcome tho'.... Don't mention the war. I did once but I think I got away with it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Ok time out guy's.............. Neil knock it off......... Slay the whole thread this far was meant in jest however I do understand how Neil's humour can get under your skin...... Neil I think those old jokes are in fact old now and maybe we don't need to try and get a rise out of slay every time we talk to him.... Finally I am sorry if anyone truely believes that I go out of my way to protect any individual, I do try to be impartial and call each situation as I see it. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 .......heck you could even have me exhausted to death by a bevvy of celebrity model girlfriends...from your harem....... mmmmmmm.... exhausted to death by a supermodel harem.... The perfect death... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Don't mention the war. I did once but I think I got away with it... Pissing in my panties seeing this picture . Best series ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Ethel Merman? God, the Scots must really be raving bloody maniacs to come up with that one... Or is it just 'Niel-ese'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthebhoy Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Ethel Merman? God, the Scots must really be raving bloody maniacs to come up with that one... Or is it just 'Niel-ese'? Simply aghast..............don't you know Ethal's music lives on and is quite de rigeur these days: Have a sample listen here. JTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 And I thought I was far-out with my Kate Smith fetish.... http://www.amazon.com/Columbia-Years-1940-...h/dp/B00005B527 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TTK Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 (edited) Make a deal with you Ken.....you get him a humour transplant...and I'll ease up on him..... Edited October 3, 2006 by TTK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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