sly Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 Hi Guys, Need a little help, Just Purchased a Rolex 1002 No date with a 1570 movement for a good deal. I plan on using this 1570 to power my 1680. Question for all the experts is what will I need to convert this into a date movement (aside from the date wheel). Any help is much appreciated. Thanks Sly
panerai153 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 Hi Guys, Need a little help, Just Purchased a Rolex 1002 No date with a 1570 movement for a good deal. I plan on using this 1570 to power my 1680. Question for all the experts is what will I need to convert this into a date movement (aside from the date wheel). Any help is much appreciated. Thanks Sly Sly, Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I bought a 1570 non date (from a 1016) by mistake. i sent it up to Ziggy to transplant into my 1665. He told me that it was a no date, and it was practically impossible to convert a no date to a date model. I sold mine to a fellow member who was building a 1016, and bought a proper date model 1570 for my 1665. From what Ziggy said, it takes far more than just a datewheel to convert as the non date 1570's were built with none of the date mechanismm and weren't built to be converted. Possibly other members have been able to do it, and I'm sure it can be done, but I would bet that you will spend far more trying to convert this one that you would spend on a date model. I would try to sell this one and find a 1570 date with a datewheel.
sly Posted February 28, 2011 Author Report Posted February 28, 2011 That's what I'm afraid of, Now time to resell this thing Oh wait, I have a 1016 with a 1601 case and a 5513 MBW with Gen. dial and Insert. Maybe time to buy a Yuki 5513 case and drop the 1570 movement there. List just goes on..............
If you see Kay Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 That's what I'm afraid of, Now time to resell his thing ahem.... remember me????
freddy333 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 I have a 1016 with a 1601 case and a 5513 MBW with Gen. dial and Insert. Maybe time to buy a Yuki 5513 case and drop the 1570 movement there. Always research before you build. I believe Rolex only ever used the 1570 in the 5512 (the 5513 was powered by either the 1520 or 1530). As panerai153 said, it is not realistic to convert the 1570 to a 1575. There are about 30+ parts that need to be changed, including the (main) pillar plate, which would likely end up costing you more than the price of the 1575, assuming you are able to source all of the parts.
ubiquitous Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 Always research before you build. I believe Rolex only ever used the 1570 in the 5512 (the 5513 was powered by either the 1520 or 1530). Newp. Rolex used the 1570 in the 1016 as well. Plenty of 1016's out there with this movement...
sly Posted February 28, 2011 Author Report Posted February 28, 2011 I know that 5513's was powered by a 1520/1530 but this has to go somewhere. Besides, I thought i bought the for a great price and couldn't. Pass it up.
ubiquitous Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 I know that 5513's was powered by a 1520/1530 but this has to go somewhere. Besides, I thought i bought the for a great price and couldn't. Pass it up.
sly Posted February 28, 2011 Author Report Posted February 28, 2011 ahem.... remember me???? I thought you were waiting for the 6444 R, A possiblity.
freddy333 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 Newp. Rolex used the 1570 in the 1016 as well. Plenty of 1016's out there with this movement... Sorry, my comment was directed to the OP's comment about dropping his 1570 into a Yuki 5513 case.
sly Posted February 28, 2011 Author Report Posted February 28, 2011 Some early 5513's were fitted with 1570's. This is just from my research (VRF etc.) not sure how true is that or if those were just replaced.
freddy333 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 Sly - While anything is possible with vintage Rolex, I doubt they (Rolex) ever fitted a chronometer-rated caliber (1570) to a non-chronometer-rated watch (5513). The principal difference between the 5513 & 5512 is the latter's chronometer-rating. So, if you see a 5513 posted somewhere with a 1570 inside, I think it likely found its way in there sometime after the watch left Rolex.
firansky Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 5513 started with 1520 and later changed to 1570 for sure
alligoat Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 5513 started with 1520 and later changed to 1570 for sure 5513 started with a 1530 in the early 60's and then switched to a 1520 around the mid 60's. I'm with freddy, anything's possible w/ vintage Rolex, but 1570 movts in a 5513 are rare and unusual. Certainly not SOP.
sly Posted February 28, 2011 Author Report Posted February 28, 2011 Sly - While anything is possible with vintage Rolex, I doubt they (Rolex) ever fitted a chronometer-rated caliber (1570) to a non-chronometer-rated watch (5513). The principal difference between the 5513 & 5512 is the latter's chronometer-rating. So, if you see a 5513 posted somewhere with a 1570 inside, I think it likely found its way in there sometime after the watch left Rolex. I Agree Freddy.
wiesn089 Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 That's what I'm afraid of, Now time to resell this thing Oh wait, I have a 1016 with a 1601 case and a 5513 MBW with Gen. dial and Insert. Maybe time to buy a Yuki 5513 case and drop the 1570 movement there. List just goes on.............. When you decide to part with your MBW case, let me know, I'll take it.
EEngels Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 Or if you wanted to sell the movement, let me know? I'm gathering parts for a no-date watch now that will likely use a 1601 case. And if you were letting go of the case with the movement? Even better!
sly Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Posted March 21, 2011 1570 is now going to my 5512 build, Sorry.
EEngels Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 1570 is now going to my 5512 build, Sorry. Awesome. Post pictures! The build I'm planning will be my first - the more stuff you guys post, the better off I'll be.
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