rek001 Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Hi all, I just ordered a Pam 196 Daylight from Joshua (I'm excited!) When I get the QC photo showing the watch on the timing machine, what number(s) should I look for? What number is considered acceptable in this QC approval process? Thanks very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 with any asian movement, chrono, unitas or 28xx with in +- 20 seconds is with in specs, and a beat rate error of 1.5ms, with a vibrograph ect and a bit if time you can get them better, but dont forget that a standard swiss movement (non chronometer) from ETA is only generaly specified to +- 20 sec a day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 I tweaked one of my 2836s today and got it to +2 sec/day and .2ms beat error! Of course, it'll probably die tomorrow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rek001 Posted April 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 jmb, perfection has its costs, LOL. FxrAndy, thank you for your detailed response, I'm ready for Josh, bring it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 I normally don't get that fussy but the planets were apparently in correct alignment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 I normally don't get that fussy but the planets were apparently in correct alignment. lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 I normally don't get that fussy but the planets were apparently in correct alignment. lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browngo1 Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Although this is a fair enough question for anyone who doesn't know, having dealt with Joshua quite a few times now, I don't believe he would send QC pics of a watch that had something seriously wrong with it. Furthermore, I don't think he would send anyone a watch which he knew was seriously faulty. Lets face it, it would be all mover RWG and it would affect his good reputation, not to mention his business! Obviously, the QC pics should be studied in case there is a minor detail he hasn't spotted, and he'll normally get most things put right or source a different watch, but the beat rate photo is generally proof that the watch he has sourced is running within acceptable limits. If he was going to send pictures of a watch which had a beat rate which was way out, he might as well send one showing the dial fitted upside down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rek001 Posted April 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 OK, Joshua just e-mailed me an EMS tracking # for the Pam 196 I just paid for, really fast. But, am I going to see QC photos before he actually ships? Is this the usual, to get a tracking # before you see the QC pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browngo1 Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Normally you need to OK or reject the QC pics within 24hrs or he ships it regardless. Send him an email saying you didn't get the QC pics. He'll reply quickly. I'm sure it will be OK anyway, if he has already shipped the watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rek001 Posted April 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 browngo, thanks for your reply. I get the impression that you think Joshua's QC procedures are not even necessary, well that's your choice. I've been collecting reps for 8 years, used Joshua many times because he's very good, but sometimes stuff slips past even the best dealer. Joshua offers QC service and that's what I expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankt Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 Here's a shot of my "el-cheapo" 21j Plopper: After @ 2 weeks, it is indeed within the specs shown! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfer2278 Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 Trailboss99, The "Fearless leader" at RWG re-posted from next door (where ever that is) a very precise response to your question. http://www.replica-watches-guide.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=14403&hl= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 I personally think that any QC pictures should take as is, no guarantee; as far as they send a watch that looks just like the one on the picture you will not be able to tell the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfer2278 Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 I personally think that any QC pictures should take as is, no guarantee; as far as they send a watch that looks just like the one on the picture you will not be able to tell the difference. Even if it is completely in the realm of possibility, it is a pessimistic position IMO. The dealers that do send Q.C. pics could simply forgo with the practice, if it is as you possibly suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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