tomyeshuah Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Are there any differences apart from the movement, between the ETA 2846 Red 1680 Sub from march 2010 and the new 2836-2 based 1680 Red Sub (early 2011)? Is the case construction the same? Do both fit genuine parts? Thank You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyeshuah Posted May 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) No one? Really? Edited May 10, 2011 by tomyeshuah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 guess not... i d wager both versions still have the retaining issue when fitting a gen crystal tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyp1 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 guess not... i d wager both versions still have the retaining issue when fitting a gen crystal tho The watch is pretty close as I have two and have had one apart. The watch may need a little work to accept a gen crystal but so did my dw 6263. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasf2002 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 I thought the 2846 is a slow beat 21000bph and the 2836 is a modern 28800bph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 dont the new versions have those little stubby crown guards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig S Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 The earlier 1680 model has a slow beat movement (as per gen) and the latter has a 28800 movement. The earlier version is the better of the two IMHO. Earlier version has a better case too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacher62 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 (edited) I have one that I received about 1 month ago. I put a Clark 127 on it and it fit perfectly. Case is of gen construction. The crown guards are short but they are alot better when you see the watch (in person) than trying to scrutinize it in pictures. Another problem is that the crown is to long. This exacerbates the CG problem. I have machined down the crown to the right size and worked on the CGs and it looks OK. Biggest problem I have is that the date has three components. The dwo, the date window and the mag lens. None of these seem to line up, horizontally. The date is left justified in the date window (same old problem). The mag lens is to the right of the date window. I am assuming that the Clark crystal is spot on and it is almost identical to the crystal that came on the watch. That means that the dial and the dwo are off. Solution...I have a 5513 dial on the way and a new 2846 awaiting implant. Problem solved. No more date issues. Edited May 11, 2011 by preacher62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 The crown guards are short but they are alot better when you see the watch (in person) than trying to scrutinize it in pictures. Another problem is that the crown is to long. This exacerbates the CG problem. I have machined down the crown to the right size and worked on the CGs and it looks OK. i dont know, those stubbys are like a finger print to me, you can easily identify the cartel copies in a pile of 1680s, and the lug hole posistion doesnt help either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star69 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 i dont know, those stubbys are like a finger print to me, you can easily identify the cartel copies in a pile of 1680s, and the lug hole posistion doesnt help either. i know you love MBK watches - but did you actually had one of these in your hands ? to the OP: Red Subs are not too easy 2get .. maybe start to find an accurate dial first - will be quite a challenge why not a Sub without a date ? saves a lot of time and energy getting the DW right ... cheers, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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