irolexu Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 OK so I have been through a dozen sights trying to unravel what is what and why is why on these explorer reps! some have correct hand stack some do not. Some have black hands while others have silver-ish hands and markers? I really need some enlightenment here as I am shopping for one of these bad boys. Do all gen explorers come with black hands and black ringed hour markers? and please someone answer this question here. WHO has the best SOURCE for these as I really want to order one!!! thanks! I am thinking of buying this one and I need input ASAP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ispytonyv Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 20 marker on the bezel looks terrible, but maybe fixable by removing excess paint? 4 o'clock hour marker also seems to indicate gray surounds, not black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 ....4 o'clock hour marker also seems to indicate gray surounds, not black. Remember GEN is NOT Black, but charcoal/gun metal... GEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www_watch Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 This is just me, but if the price is right, I'd go for it. Just because it has all the features I'd look for in a 16570: - good date window position - NO rehaut engraving - nice dial - lug holes - it's WHITE IMO all the rest could be fixed afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted August 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Who would you guys go to for a nice explorer II I wouldn't mind lug holes and don't want rehaut engraving This is just me, but if the price is right, I'd go for it. Just because it has all the features I'd look for in a 16570: - good date window position - NO rehaut engraving - nice dial - lug holes - it's WHITE IMO all the rest could be fixed afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted August 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 20 marker on the bezel looks terrible, but maybe fixable by removing excess paint? 4 o'clock hour marker also seems to indicate gray surounds, not black. I magnified the image even more turns out its just gunk caught up in there not paint. and I believe this one seems to be closest to gen dial as it seems to get? I have seen reps with straight up gray hands AND markers also this has holes drilled in the sides. only 288.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackcat Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Remember GEN is NOT Black, but charcoal/gun metal... GEN That's not the case. The markers are black. But I have also seen some gun metal ones as well. I have a gen dial in my Noob Explorer 2, and they are black. Predominantly the markers are black, and not gun metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 That's not the case. The markers are black. But I have also seen some gun metal ones as well. I have a gen dial in my Noob Explorer 2, and they are black. Predominantly the markers are black, and not gun metal. Pre-SEL perhaps. I have seen a myrid of white EXPII whites from 1999 forward and none are "True Black". Is your dial a cream colored? Blackening might also be oxidization on an older dial. Can you post pics of yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsiadeCuba Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 the 20 marker would bother the crap out of me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signumboy Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 I got this from narikaa earlier this year , 21j vgvfm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted August 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Is that a noob with 21j? Also does she offer explorer II with Swiss ETA and the 20 has crap in it its not permanent just junk from what ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackcat Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Pre-SEL perhaps. I have seen a myrid of white EXPII whites from 1999 forward and none are "True Black". Is your dial a cream colored? Blackening might also be oxidization on an older dial. Can you post pics of yours? This is my watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 OK so I have been through a dozen sights trying to unravel what is what and why is why on these explorer reps! some have correct hand stack some do not. Some have black hands while others have silver-ish hands and markers? I really need some enlightenment here as I am shopping for one of these bad boys. Do all gen explorers come with black hands and black ringed hour markers? and please someone answer this question here. WHO has the best SOURCE for these as I really want to order one!!! thanks! I am thinking of buying this one and I need input ASAP! It looks ok, but the crystal construction is bad. The Noob version was the only great ExpII and I doubt they can duplicate that anymore. Especially when it's already an old model. I wouldn't buy this one, but then I again I owned the greatest rep of it. As Ronin says, the gen markers are actually very dark gun metal grey, which appear black in most lighting conditions. The old white Explorer II reps had light grey hour markers that looked terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted August 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 How can you tell the construction of the crystal is bad I mean thats an easy fix? clark crystal perhaps? I have been searching left right up and down for a good rep of this watch and so far this one seems to be the best...unless someone coughs up a site with a real good one OR willing to sell me theirs! I would love to hear other wise I will probably stumble on this one (not particularly this EXACT one) but same dealer etc. (watchinternational) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 How can you tell the construction of the crystal is bad I mean thats an easy fix? No... you can't fix it. The case is missing the gen looking "cylindrical shape", which is very apparent when you photograph the watch from front. The problem isn't all bad on your watch though... but most of the cheap ass Rolex reps don't have this "rehaut thickness" at all... they're "wokky". Then look at the (now difficult to source) best Noob version(s). Rehaut shape and thickness under the crystal looks almost 1:1 with the gen. Watch in your pics is not a bad rep, just not the best one made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted August 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 By-tor would you happen to know where I could source a better rep from that would be an amazing help from you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 No... sorry. bklm1234 is pretty much your only chance, but I doubt he can source this rep anymore (as it's completely out of production). I'm afraid member trades is the only option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 I got this from narikaa earlier this year , 21j vgvfm. To me that rehaut is far too "wokky". And Narikka isn't a "she". At least the last time I contacted Reg, he wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 AT sneed...any idea why a gen crystal will fit in the BK Noob Exp.II but a gen dial won't ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted August 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Well so far I actually find ANGUS's explorer II to be the best with correct hand stack ect ect and the attention to detail you guys are talking about is something only .0001% of the general population is really going to know and over-all I just want a solid dial and nice looking hands. my concentration right now are on my Datejust builds using gen case, gen dial, gen crystal, gen crown and tube, ETA and rep band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Well so far I actually find ANGUS's explorer II to be the best with correct hand stack ect ect and the attention to detail you guys are talking about is something only .0001% of the general population is really going to know and over-all I just want a solid dial and nice looking hands. my concentration right now are on my Datejust builds using gen case, gen dial, gen crystal, gen crown and tube, ETA and rep band PT's does look very good...I agree. You may want to read up on the CHS versions. I'm no expert but I've read that some of the CHS mvt's. are potential timebombs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Perhaps this is something that may interest you. My link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted August 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Thanks for all the replys and correct time I PMed him so let's cross our fingers but he mentioned he got it from a dealer on the forums so worst case I just get it new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneed12 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 I have seen a myrid of white EXPII whites from 1999 forward and none are "True Black". Every one I have seen is black, but it's a very shiny black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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