slay Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 (edited) http://www.watchlounge.com/wbb2/wl/thread....d60fe4303255cea this guy sure knows how to take wicked sick pictures. Edited October 22, 2006 by slay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Good photos... but not even close to Neil's best stuff. Actually lots of our members can shoot pics in this quality. Bazz, Puggy and many others have shot just as good PAM shots. PS: The blue lume pics are 10 seconds Photoshop jobs. I can do that too. More "artsy Photoshop junk": Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted October 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 still your blue pics are in no way close to that dudes pics to me that guys pics look better than neils. neils look a little bit too synthetic/artificial to me, like sometimes in watch ads when you dont know if its the actual watch or a computer made image. but thats just my humble opinion. I prefer pictures without all the fancy photoshop tricks such as removing the reflections and all that kind of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 still your blue pics are in no way close to that dudes pics That wasn't my point... they weren't supposed to be anything special. Those original lume pics I took are straight out of a $100 camera, shot without any decent equipment or setup. My point was that doing Photoshop tricks like this isn't impressive at all (imho). It might look nice (and sometimes it's nice to play with it)... but it has nothing to do with "picture taking skills". to me that guys pics look better than neils. neils look a little bit too synthetic/artificial to me, like sometimes in watch ads when you dont know if its the actual watch or a computer made image. but thats just my humble opinion. I prefer pictures without all the fancy photoshop tricks such as removing the reflections and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. It's a taste thing. I didn't think those pictures were anything special. Some of them were technically pretty poor, even. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. This is what I call impressive pic: http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9944/001sublv16610we3.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Personally speaking, I think Ming Thien has some great photog skills (and some nice composition as well). I also think fast freddy has some excellent photo skills too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Slay mentioned that he doesn't like Photoshopped pics but those pics he linked were definitely Photoshopped heavily (overcontrasted). I shoot pics in natural lighting... usually outside. And often even without light box (using different kind of reflector cards). The pics might not look "impressive" or make anyone go "ooh, aah"... but they're realistic and are kinda pics that I like. For me it's not any kind of competition, either. This kind of pics...which show the watch in natural lighting... are (imho) best for the reviews... and serve the readers best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 http://www.watchlounge.com/wbb2/wl/thread....d60fe4303255cea this guy sure knows how to take wicked sick pictures. Nice of him to not pull the crown. So we can see that it's roughly a 30s exposure. Cool shots!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotoman Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 eh - nice, but not like some of the best i have seen here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTone Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 I for one have no business chiming in on photo skills, a loooonnnnngggggg ways away from that topic... However, this is one stunning piece of his that would look lovely on my wrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astig Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 (edited) rep or gen? probably gen Edited October 22, 2006 by astig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TTK Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 (edited) Sorry....I don't agree on the technique side of the photographs......I could do those shots all day long....shoot in harsh light to creat the specular highlights....Photoshop them heavily......a little reflection here and there.....bingo......! But everybody'd tatse is different when it comes to 'art'......when I post something here....I'm not concerned with 'art"...the difference between his photos and mine is that I shoot mine in order to provide the best reference photos for selling a watch......not for being 'arty'......! neils look a little bit too synthetic/artificial to me, like sometimes in watch ads when you dont know if its the actual watch or a computer made image. Thank you for compliment......if my pics look like magazine shots....that's what I aim for...on the other hand if my photos look like computer generated images....then I'm doing something that even the best studios aren't doing.....producing CGI without a computer.......virtually ALL my work is done in camera.......I don't use Photoshop to dial out reflections.......I manipulate light to do that........the only Photoshop I use is to perhaps increase contrast / sharpness / white balance and for 'spotting' purposes....( it's virtually impossible to keep a watch clean).....so I use P/shop.......to remove any dust or fingerprints that has adhered to the glass / case / bracelet.....but that isn't cheating.....! Here's a number of examples.......specifically shot for sales purposes.....oh....and thank you for the opportunity to show some photographs again.....I'm just a shameless publicity hag...... But then again....if you want Photoshopped....I can do that as well.... Edited October 22, 2006 by TTK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devedander Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 This is not PS? http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-11/71140/Ebel07FLARE.jpg Helluva lense flair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TTK Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 (edited) @Deve....yes that's a Photoshop manipulated image.....but that's one of my genuine watches....and would never be put up for sale on this board......I took the opportunity to be a little 'arty' with my Ebel. The point I was emphasising was that ANY replica watch that I put up for sale here.....is NOT heavily Photoshopped........you only have to look at the Exif data to see the level of Photoshop I use.....not a great deal.....! BTW....it's 'flare'.....altho' I think I exercised a little flair when doing it....same as these...which are P'shopped......but would NEVER be put up as representative of the item for sale! Edited October 22, 2006 by TTK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdivad Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Bravo Neil... I think your shots suit their purpose perfectly, it's a completely different application. Technical photography compared to 'art' photography is like comparing oranges and elephants, you just can't do it. Those shots the guy made on the other forum are nice and artsy, but I'd probably never buy a watch from them, the exact inverse applies to Neil's shots, except sometimes they're just too good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everythingape Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 I have to agree with most people here, Slay.. Those pics are nothing special to me.. I am no expert, but I am in a learning process. The reflections in his pics look burned out, over exposed. The dark areas and the dark pics look like they are under exposed, and he's tried to brighten them in PS. He's shooting with whitebalance in automode, that's rarely a good thing, and not in his case anyway. (I checked this model out when I was buying a new camera, and several reviews stated "very average automatic white balance performance") He's using a Canon EOS 300D DIGITAL, so he's got an "entry level" SLR, and lots of settings to tinker with. I also think he crops the photos too close, cutting off parts you'd normally want to see. I myself don't bother too much with my pics, I have a camera like Pugwash', but I do not have his skills nor interest. I get a lucky keeper shot of my baby girl now and then, when she decides to stand still for a split second. Our Panasonic FZs are inexpensive cameras and Pugwash gets a LOT out of it. I'm more of a fan of direct-from-camera pics rather than the ones that's had 'artistic' manipulation in PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasigi Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 I much prefer Neil's photography. Although seeing the things he photographs makes me want to spend money, which is the exact reason they're like they are! *must resist* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Sorry, I'm not impressed. I can do better, and that means TTK can do way, way better. Here's a 183 pic in that sort of style. Note how I've kept all the dynamic range and not seared the highlights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 I prefer pictures without all the fancy photoshop tricks such as removing the reflections and all that kind of stuff. Photoshop or no Photoshop? Yes, like Neil, I'm using this thread as an excuse to cherry-pick my portfolio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Bazz, Puggy and many others have shot just as good PAM shots. Check out Koopia's pics too. He's quietly churning out some amazing shots over on the DarkSide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TTK Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 @Puggy......it's fun isn't it......only thing is I get bored with reps.....I'm headed home to Scotland in late November....I'll be picking up some new genuines...( hopefully an AP T3 )........and looking forward to photographing them...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everythingape Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 That damned Railmaster has got me salivating, TTK.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 @Puggy......it's fun isn't it......only thing is I get bored with reps.....I'm headed home to Scotland in late November....I'll be picking up some new genuines...( hopefully an AP T3 )........and looking forward to photographing them...! Nice one. I can't wait to see the pics. I presume you'll be back in Thailand for Xmas/New Year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TTK Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Yes...I'm just going home to be Santa......and sort out some more business......I've got masses of electronic gear that I need to get shot of....scanners.....UHF/VHF transmitters...laser listeners......hi-fi gear.....DVD's and Laserdiscs to pack over here....too much all at once.......need to do it in stages....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usil Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 If I ever want my 'buy now' brain button to click in all I need to do is see more TTK pics and I can not resist. Must resist. Usil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasigi Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Yes...I'm just going home to be Santa......and sort out some more business......I've got masses of electronic gear that I need to get shot of....scanners.....UHF/VHF transmitters...laser listeners......hi-fi gear.....DVD's and Laserdiscs to pack over here....too much all at once.......need to do it in stages....! qrz? You a radio ham, Neil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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