nullidentitat Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Hey guys, so after lurking here for a while I've procured my first real rep, a Cartel 5512 from Josh. I'm just beginning to work on it, using JMB's "Quick and Easy Cartel 5512 Fixup" thread as a starting point. I've gotten ahold of a few Clarks T19's, as well as gaskets for under the retaining ring. The OD of the Clarks crystal seems to be a little larger than the rep crystal that the 5512 came with; so much so that I cracked one of the Clarks while I was trying to press the retaining ring on. So: is it a better idea to reduce the OD of the crystal? Or to try and open up the ID of the retaining ring a bit? Or am I missing something? Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danza1812 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I've heard success stories of freezing the mid case, popping the crystal on and then the retaining ring after said ring has been warmed. Physics apparently! The Other option is to shave/file the outer part of the crystal but this can affect the overall look and effect of the crystal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchguy2 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I always shave the outside of the crystal till it fits. I don't like the idea of making the retaining ring thinner. I have never noticed any difference with the overall look and effect of the crystal. Just shave a very small part of 1.5mm (the thickness of the retaining ring) and take only a tenth of a mm off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullidentitat Posted November 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Thanks guys. Dutchguy: do you use fine-grit sandpaper or a file? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasf2002 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I've heard success stories of freezing the mid case, popping the crystal on and then the retaining ring after said ring has been warmed. Physics apparently! The Other option is to shave/file the outer part of the crystal but this can affect the overall look and effect of the crystal. there are actually two sizes I'm afraid 305mm and 303mm - I got both from Cousins uk and the 303mm fitted perfectly on the Josh case. I then got a gen but it was a bit tighter but not much: http://www.cousinsuk.com/catalog/4/494/1957.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I simple use a dremel to open the ID of the retaining ring, and use use the heat method as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 I used a generic "Super Dome" and it was a direct swap, IIRC... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siesta181 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Re-read the post.... my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchguy2 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 I use very fine sandpaper, 800 or above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 One thing to add, the Ofrei t-19s are closer to gen in diameter than the Clarks.The fit is better and with snap, no need to trim the crystal, however, the dome is not the same. The Ofrei ones tend to be more like the service crystal with almost no dome. SK is tops. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 The Clark's T-19 fit the gen perfectly. On reps that I've needed to 'adjust', I use 1500 sandpaper. The very fine sandpaper is also good for taking out deeper scratches, even on the face, and then polishing with Brasso to perfectly clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullidentitat Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 After some judicious sandpapering, I was finally able to fit the Clark's. That thing is snug. So much so, in fact, that I have a feeling it won't be coming out in one piece if I ever need to remove it. (Looks like I have a good excuse to put in an Ofrei order.) As much of a PITA as fitting it was, I'm definitely much happier with the Clark's over the OEM rep with which this thing shipped. The rehaut is actually visible now, and the overall height is much more manageable. Thanks for the help guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rymeister Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Hi guys would this be the crystal I would need for a 5513 build, more than likely going to use joshes 5513 case if I can't get hold of a Mbw case. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250923985814?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648#ht_768wt_922 Any advise would be great Regards Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchguy2 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Hi guys would this be the crystal I would need for a 5513 build, more than likely going to use joshes 5513 case if I can't get hold of a Mbw case. http://www.ebay.co.u...48#ht_768wt_922 Any advise would be great Regards Ryan Yes, for both cases (Josh and MBW). But read the above, most of the time a little trimming of either the crystal or retaining ring is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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