poretl Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Hi and happy New Year. I was reading the other day an article that talked sepcifically about Panerai's great lume (was talking about gen of course) and its ability to glow up to 14-15 hours with one still being able to read the dial. They also provided charts that showed the lume intensity Vs time. 1. Let's assume that the above statement is true. But because it might be too big of an assumption let's lower the 14 hours down to 8 hours. 2. All the descriptions of the rep Pan claim the lume is so unbelieveably freakin good, like the original this, like the original that. Oh, I almost forgot. The latest 366 release, one of the dealers claims something long these lines: "the lume is BETTER than the original in terms of how long it last. Unbelievable but true". 1+2 above suggest that these reps lume can last at least 8 hours. Can you guys comment on that? Does your rep Pan's lume last 8+ hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifter Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 My experience with rep lume- answer is no. My reps lumed by The Zigmeister last 12+ hours because he uses real C3. From the factory maybe a few hours tops. I highly recommend The Zigmeister! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Genuine TriTech brand Super-Luminova is rated to last 7 or 8 hours. That means you can read it if you are in complete darkness after that amount of time. Of course it will only glow brightly for a short time, and then last for the duration at a much dimmer level. Gen watch makers don't brew up their own luminous material, no matter what lies their marketing departments spoon-feed to you. They buy from makers like TriTech. As a rule of thumb, replica lume glows brightly for a few moments then fades to nothing. If you get anything better than that you are lucky. New rep watches with Super-Luminova glow like a genuine brand watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 They can write whatever they want to write. I can tell you as an owner of a number of gens and C3 relumes by Ziggy there is no difference. And in truth there is a higher grade of lume which Panerai doesn't use which glows better and longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poretl Posted January 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 @ Powermax So look at this newly released watch and see what it says about the lume: http://www.1-pc8838.com/pn366m02-366m-fu31119-p-11825.html You think I can indeed expect the same quality as the gen which by th way, as a gen owner, can you tell me if it indeed lasts all night (8+ hours)? I'm not sure about others but I like this feature on a watch. I already have another watch (gen) that lasts all night (approx. 7 hours) and I love it. Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweattdogg Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Zigs lume on the hands of my 112 match the gen dial perfectly in color and duration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Jkay has it exactly right. Can you read the watch in total darkness after 7-8 hours - yes. Is it glowing like a torch - heck no. You will be surprised at how quickly the brightness tones down. I have always found it interesting that the brightness and length of glow can vary dramatically based on the color of the lume. It is not an accident that Panerai initially stuck with C3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucil Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 the noob factory and h factory lume on the older versions like 005 and 111 dont last that long right??? correct me if im wrong, my experience is that the H factory lume for 111 lasts only for about 10-20 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 I keep reading folks boast about their lumes and how they last for hours, what a non sense. You will get a decent amount of lume for about 15 min with any good gen. After that it's a foolish exercise of locking yourself inside a dark closet so you can pat yourself in the back that you can make out the dial from the very very faint lume. If you want to read a dial in the dark get something like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poretl Posted January 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 it's called sleeping in a dark room, not locking yourself inside a dark closet. I don't lock myself in ay closet but I have to confess, I sleep every night. I personally find it very useful in the middle of the night reading the time off of my watch that's next to me. And no, it's not an exaggeration. I have an Swiss Army Airboss Special Edition and it lasts all night. Not as bright as it is within the first 30 minutes but it's perfectly readable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 I keep reading folks boast about their lumes and how they last for hours, what a non sense. You will get a decent amount of lume for about 15 min with any good gen. After that it's a foolish exercise of locking yourself inside a dark closet so you can pat yourself in the back that you can make out the dial from the very very faint lume. If you want to read a dial in the dark get something like this Exactly, they glow bright after a charge, and only with a dark room and adjusted eyes will you see the glow (quality)REP or GEN. Exception: Ball Watch and Doxa 800Ti with Tritium Tubes. (I think a few other brands are using Tritium Tubes now). My Ball's glow with the same intensity 24x7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 it's called sleeping in a dark room, not locking yourself inside a dark closet. I don't lock myself in ay closet but I have to confess, I sleep every night. I personally find it very useful in the middle of the night reading the time off of my watch that's next to me. And no, it's not an exaggeration. I have an Swiss Army Airboss Special Edition and it lasts all night. Not as bright as it is within the first 30 minutes but it's perfectly readable. don't take this the wrong way but this is a little bit of non sense. 1) you should have better sleeping habits as waking up to check a watch is not a very healthy thing to do 2) as you are waking up your eyes will have a hard time adjusting to a faint dial, a digital one (or the Ball like suggested above) would be a lot more useful 3) have you considered an alarm so you don't have to worry about waking up to check the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poretl Posted January 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 don't take this the wrong way but this is a little bit of non sense. 1) you should have better sleeping habits as waking up to check a watch is not a very healthy thing to do 2) as you are waking up your eyes will have a hard time adjusting to a faint dial, a digital one (or the Ball like suggested above) would be a lot more useful 3) have you considered an alarm so you don't have to worry about waking up to check the time? Thanks for the advice. And no, I don't take it the wrong way. But I hope you don't charge me for your services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Thanks for the advice. And no, I don't take it the wrong way. But I hope you don't charge me for your services. whatever dude, good luck to whatever you are looking for here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poretl Posted January 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 (edited) whatever dude, good luck to whatever you are looking for here. OK, will you forgive me if I listen to your pal txcollector and change my sleeping habits ans buy an alarm? And I promise, I will NEVER, EVER again look at my watch in the night. I will also join the lumaholic anonymous, just for you. Edited January 3, 2012 by poretl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 I have an Swiss Army Airboss Special Edition and it lasts all night. Not as bright as it is within the first 30 minutes but it's perfectly readable. you probably already have your answer then. The gen PAMs and reps that use superluminova should be no better or worse than your Airboss. I really don't get the point of your threads and thats probably a good reason I should refrain from replying to them as you seem to either be getting the wrong idea from the posts or have an attitude I don't care for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 I have an Swiss Army Airboss Special Edition and it lasts all night. Not as bright as it is within the first 30 minutes but it's perfectly readable. I don't know that watch but assuming it is lume that sounds about right. It will still glow after several hours, the glow is a fraction of what it was in the first 15-30 minutes but it would certainly be readable in the dark for several hours. As for the reps it is a function of the quality of the lume. The 15-16 hours and still bright is not possible with lume though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 I really don't get the point of your threads and thats probably a good reason I should refrain from replying to them as you seem to either be getting the wrong idea from the posts or have an attitude I don't care for. Agreed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 The bottom line, with regard to Panerai lume is that there is just so much of it on the dial! That certainly adds to the effect of it being very bright and lasting longer. They must fill those lume canyons with a fire hose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poretl Posted January 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 great. So I'm now between an alarm, as per tx's advice, or a panerai. But can I put the alarm on my wrist? Can I challenge the AD in the mall to see if he can tell if it's real or fake with my alarm? No and no. After all, when I get married probably I ll get a couple of alarms as gifts but certainly not a Panerai. Genuine or rep. Especially a rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louky Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I Have some gen pams and the lume glow is not that big. My old 2002 model has tritium which gives a normal glow ,my 005 on the other hand with superluminova glows much better.Recentky i got a Noob rep and the lume on it was believe it or not superior to the Gen!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbjoer Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 As for the reps it is a function of the quality of the lume. I Have some gen pams and the lume glow is not that big. My old 2002 model has tritium which gives a normal glow ,my 005 on the other hand with superluminova glows much better.Recentky i got a Noob rep and the lume on it was believe it or not superior to the Gen!! Correct me if I am wrong, but are there not at least 2 other factors influencing the lume: Thickness and age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louky Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Yes ,specialy on old tritium lumes! But the 005 with luminova is less then 2 years old.and when is say superior i mean it has more of a neon glow more then the gen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbjoer Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) Exception: Ball Watch and Doxa 800Ti with Tritium Tubes. (I think a few other brands are using Tritium Tubes now). What is Tritium Tubes? Sounds like it is not a powder based product. Edited February 6, 2012 by mbjoer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louky Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Its not always that case.Perhaps it has to do with the materials or how they are applied.A friend has gen 26k the lume is superior. Also the Lume on my Omega seamaster professional is also amazing !Glows like a torch !The 005 glows as well just slightly behind,and when is ay this i mean you have to be a watch fanatic to tell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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