gavidoc Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Gen movement is the way to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 So all I need to complete the head is a set of tritium hands to match the dial. A set of tritium hands in good shape is going to cost you a lot my friend. I would try and find a lumi set of hands if you can. I wanted to go that route but the hands are way too expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavidoc Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 To back up red the hands will be at least 3-4 hundred if not more. A lot harder to find 16800/16610 tritium hands compared to 1680. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 I'd just get some decent aftermarket lumi hands, you can usually find them in a few different colors to match your dial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 +1 My hands are lumi hands and they match perfectly! I paid €80 for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Looks great! Shame my case got turned back around. I was hoping to get it done before my birthday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Looks great! Shame my case got turned back around. I was hoping to get it done before my birthday. Excellent B-Day present for yourself brother. I've gone nutz with getting this project gathered up. Cal.3035 was a compulsive purchase and now.... a complete gen bezel assembly that came off a 16800 in 1986 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) Opinions needed on pinion height. I'm still gathering parts for the project and I'm certainly no expert but are the pinions supposed to be this tall on a 3035 for a 16800 ?? Eyeballing it I'm guessing the hour hand will be sitting over 1mm about the dial. Is this correct?? Edited July 27, 2012 by correctime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 In my 100% noob opinion..that looks crazy tall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 I don't think the movement will fit. You need to exchange that complete hunk of metal for the 2836 I will be using for mine. You will be glad. It even has the 3135 faux treatment. I love the oxidation on the pearl you got there CT. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Thanks for posting the pictures of that bezel! I always thought one of my gen bezels was from a 16800 but after seeing yours I'm now convinced its an old 16610. I do have a bezel that looks a lot like yours but I know it's not gen. Have you decided on a case yet? Do you need me to shape one up for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Oh man, what a thread :tu: After my recent abomination of a 16800 project, I'd mentally written off re-attempting it, thinking, "Why do I need a 16800 when I have a 79190 which fulfils the same criteria...?" Then I saw this thread, and remembered just what an awesome piece the 16800 is, and that's why I need one as well as the 79190 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 In my 100% noob opinion..that looks crazy tall. In my 100% Noob opinion I'm thinking it looks very tall too but won't know for sure until I install the dial. Any logical reason it would be too tall...as in did the 3035's go into other cases needing taller pinions to clear the dial ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 I don't think the movement will fit. You need to exchange that complete hunk of metal for the 2836 I will be using for mine. You will be glad. It even has the 3135 faux treatment. I love the oxidation on the pearl you got there CT. E Yeah...that patina trit looks pretty vintage Brother. IMaybe too patina'd but the entire assembly came at a great price for me so I went for it. (and I've got a spare gen tritium pearl to exchange if it turms out looking a bit mis-matched for the dial.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Oh man, what a thread :tu: After my recent abomination of a 16800 project, I'd mentally written off re-attempting it, thinking, "Why do I need a 16800 when I have a 79190 which fulfils the same criteria...?" Then I saw this thread, and remembered just what an awesome piece the 16800 is, and that's why I need one as well as the 79190 I know the feeling brother. With a Franken TC 16610 I didn't really "need" another Sub. But then I got to looking at the build Red was doing...and poof...I dove in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 CT, if ever you want to trade pearls, I have a brand we one from my 666 project that I would love to trade for an oxidized one. I'm going for the dirty, used and abused 666, not the trailer queen type. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 I know the feeling brother. With a Franken TC 16610 I didn't really "need" another Sub. But then I got to looking at the build Red was doing...and poof...I dove in. I think the 16800/168000s really do have a magic which transcends the 16610 I know where my conversion project went wrong, so can modify my plan, but it was seeing this thread which reminded me of that magic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 I don't think the movement will fit. You need to exchange that complete hunk of metal for the 2836 I will be using for mine. You will be glad. It even has the 3135 faux treatment. I love the oxidation on the pearl you got there CT. E Not going to fit ?? Why's that ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) Thanks for posting the pictures of that bezel! I always thought one of my gen bezels was from a 16800 but after seeing yours I'm now convinced its an old 16610. I do have a bezel that looks a lot like yours but I know it's not gen. Have you decided on a case yet? Do you need me to shape one up for you? I've got an excellent case for this brother. Something about production in germany a few years back. But until I confirm the true origin of this case I'm gonna kept that on the DL.... The 3035 and the gen dial fit it like a glove.... I'm curious...how did seeing this gen 16800 assembly convince you yours is a old 16610..?? Edited July 27, 2012 by correctime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted July 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 I just had a conversation with the seller of the 16800 case regarding it's origin. He's a semi-retired gemologist/jeweler and currently a very skilled watchmaker. In owning a jewelery shop over the past 18 years he's made some pretty "unique" friends/associates. And as a professional jeweler, a few Italian, high quality sterile replacement cases were made available to him. These cases were never made abvailable to the general public as they were produced for gen owners needing a replacement case that was no longer offered by Rolex or RSC's. I am very pleased to find that the gen dial and Cal.3035 dropped right in as they should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 That case loos really good. Stem alignment? I was joking about the movement CT . Looking for one for cheap for the 666 project. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted July 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 (edited) Stem aligment is perfect Of course I won't be able to show that until the 24-7020 tube arrives next week. I've purchased 2 crowns with the 702 style coronet and turns out they're both 702 crowns.....so I picked up a new 702 tube on VRF. (the Phong 703 with early style coronet looks awesome...but it's more like 4.1mm thick...gen is 3.7mm ) If anyone has the early 703 7mm crown for the 16800 I'd be happy to trade off a 702 in mint condition for it Edited July 29, 2012 by correctime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Sen me pictures of the crown. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted July 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Sen me pictures of the crown. E Done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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