marlin22 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Hi Everyone, Sold a watch to Mr. yonatan.ezo, I received payment through Paypal. sent the watch, tracked it to its destination. He emailed me verifying he received the watch and that it was amazing and he was very happy with it, this was on August 29th. Today, PP contacts me to let me know that Mr. yonatan.ezo has place a charge back on his credit card, claiming that the transaction was not authorized. I have contacted him, he says he did not do it, and now he has gone silent. In the mean time the funds are on hold. What I am wondering is has this same thing happened to anyone else with this member who has for whatever reason been banned from this forum? I would also like to know if he was banned because of such behavior? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 I think most likely you answered your own questions In regards to this baned member. Sorry to hear about your unfortunate situation. Good luck. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin22 Posted September 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Thanks, it seems I'll get my money back, as I sent PP all emails corrispondence, including the one he sent saying he lrecieved the watch and loved it, and complete tracking history of the watch. The only problem is I won't see my money for 90 days. In the event this guy decides to come on here again under another user name here is his info. SELLER BEWARE!!! Yonatan Ezogue 4 arlozorov street 63404 Tel Aviv TEL AVIV ISRAEL +972522902212 yonatan.ezo@gmail.com Live and learn I guess, I've sold over 30 high end watches and this is the only transaction with a problem, everyone else was professional and a pleasure to deal with, it's a shame that there is always one that screws everything up! To be continued....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashk Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Welcome back Merlin and sorry to hear that good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielv2000 Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Sorry to hear,mate. I am always skeptical when a new member starts scooping up several watches in short order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin22 Posted September 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 This is confirmation, this guy is out to scam. His scam is a good one, because everything goes as it should with PP. Not for a couple of weeks after will the scam take effect. At this point I will be sending everything I sell insured for the full price paid by the buyer, I will give the buyer the option to decline the insurance. If buyer chooses to decline insurance then payment must be made as gift. This is an unfortunate turn of events, because the majority of us in this community are honest and straight forward. It only takes one person, out for themselves, to ruin a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 I will confirm that this appears to have taken place twice, now. once with the yonatan.ezo and once with the vintage israel name. sellers beware. See also here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmg Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Thanks FxrAndy for posting the link, yes pulled the same scam with me exactly! Well I certainly believe in Karma.... It will come back around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Thanks guys, yes pulled the same scam with me exactly! Well I certainly believe in Karma.... It will come back around. Sorry to read about this scam. Most of the members here are very honest and a pleasure to deal with. It just takes one [censored] to mess things up. I agree....karma will bite him In the ass one day. Hopefully soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmg Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 and bite this weenie hard!!! Sorry to read about this scam. Most of the members here are very honest and a pleasure to deal with. It just takes one [censored] to mess things up. I agree....karma will bite him In the ass one day. Hopefully soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielv2000 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 I will confirm that this appears to have taken place twice, now. once with the yonatan.ezo and once with the vintage israel name. sellers beware. See also here I knew this guy was the same! God! He actually PMd me about a watch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Sorry to read about this scam. Most of the members here are very honest and a pleasure to deal with. It just takes one [censored] to mess things up. I agree....karma will bite him In the ass one day. Hopefully soon. and bite this weenie hard!!! Ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin22 Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Well if I have anything to do with it, I have already made sure that PP limited his account, so he can't do this to anyone else. I have sent PP all his info, and will make sure PP stays on his ass. I will try my best to get PP to boot him out. PP was nice enough to refund me a tone of fees to bring my account back to positive and they assure me I will get my money back, and that Mr. yonatan wont be so lucky. For others that this has happened to, fight it, as long as you have tracking information and it shows that the package was delivered, PP will fight to get you back your money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Sorry to read about this scam. Most of the members here are very honest and a pleasure to deal with. It just takes one [censored] to mess things up. I agree....karma will bite him In the ass one day. Hopefully soon. Karma can have whats left of his ass after his "pick up the soap" encounters in jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Karma can have whats left of his ass after his "pick up the soap" encounters in jail. Indeed...he might want to look into. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Indeed...he might want to look into. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I knew this guy was the same! God! He actually PMd me about a watch... if you knew this why did you not tell a mod or Admin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielv2000 Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 if you knew this why did you not tell a mod or Admin? Let me rephrase. I suspected it was the same guy. 2 user ids from Israel pop up around same time trying to scoop up lots of watches... All I had was a supiscion. You betcha next time, I will share that with the admins. If I end up being wrong, so be it. Better safe than sorry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Thanks If any one suspects a member may be using two IDs or is a scammer in the making them let us know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Thanks If any one suspects a member may be using two IDs or is a scammer in the making them let us know. What happens if one suspects that the PCMUT and PCMUT2 sold in the Jag-in-a-box auctions are the same? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtiis Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Don't ask... won't tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin22 Posted December 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Update: Just though some of you who had the same problem as me would like ti know! After over 4 months I got an email from PP leting me know I won the case against this SOB! I have blanked out the case number and amount, but you can see that if done properly these cases can be won. Still, Ill believe it when the money is back in my account. _____________________________________________________________________________ "We are pleased to inform you that we have successfully disputed chargeback case #PP-XXX-XXX-XXX-826. The buyer's card issuer has decided in your favor and within seven days you will receive reimbursement for $X,XXX.00 USD. It is PayPal's standard practice to dispute wrongful chargebacks. One of the benefits of using PayPal is that our team of chargeback specialists will gather the necessary information from you and work with the credit card company until the chargeback is resolved. We appreciate your prompt response to our request for information about this transaction." ___________________________________________________________________________ Hope some of the others scammed by this guy receive the same outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmg Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Thanks for the update, my case is still pending -ditto on the SOB commentary! Update: Just though some of you who had the same problem as me would like ti know! After over 4 months I got an email from PP leting me know I won the case against this SOB! I have blanked out the case number and amount, but you can see that if done properly these cases can be won. Still, Ill believe it when the money is back in my account. _____________________________________________________________________________ "We are pleased to inform you that we have successfully disputed chargeback case #PP-XXX-XXX-XXX-826. The buyer's card issuer has decided in your favor and within seven days you will receive reimbursement for $X,XXX.00 USD. It is PayPal's standard practice to dispute wrongful chargebacks. One of the benefits of using PayPal is that our team of chargeback specialists will gather the necessary information from you and work with the credit card company until the chargeback is resolved. We appreciate your prompt response to our request for information about this transaction." ___________________________________________________________________________ Hope some of the others scammed by this guy receive the same outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Good news Indeed marlin. I hope anyone else who's had problems with this pos ends up with the same results as marlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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