Guest TTK Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Well, took the day off and went swimming....and a trip to the gym....sauna and turkish baths......so thought I'd see how my 187 and a 16610 would fare in the different environments......here's the results. 16610 Submariner Swimming and diving in 4 metre pool.......NO PROBLEM..... Hot plunge pool..........NO PROBLEM..... Cold plunge pool.......NO PROBLEM....... Dry sauna room........NO PROBLEM....... Turkish steam room....NO PROBLEM........ 187 Panerai Chronograph Swimming and diving in 4 metre pool.......NO PROBLEM..... Hot plunge pool..........NO PROBLEM..... Cold plunge pool.......NO PROBLEM....... Dry sauna room........NO PROBLEM....... Turkish steam room.......BIG PROBLEM........ $100 VS $300........hmmmm...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M5Man Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Well, took the day off and went swimming....and a trip to the gym....sauna and turkish baths......so thought I'd see how my 187 and a 16610 would fare in the different environments......here's the results. 16610 Submariner Swimming and diving in 4 metre pool.......NO PROBLEM..... Hot plunge pool..........NO PROBLEM..... Cold plunge pool.......NO PROBLEM....... Dry sauna room........NO PROBLEM....... Turkish steam room....NO PROBLEM........ 187 Panerai Chronograph Swimming and diving in 4 metre pool.......NO PROBLEM..... Hot plunge pool..........NO PROBLEM..... Cold plunge pool.......NO PROBLEM....... Dry sauna room........NO PROBLEM....... Turkish steam room.......BIG PROBLEM........ $100 VS $300........hmmmm...... Holy Shnickies Batman! Better crack that case quick and let it dry out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAHLER Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 sounds like the gaskets of the panerai are not from 300$ !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estaban Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Where do you think the problem on the 187 originated from? Pushers, crown, caseback, or crystal? I'm guessing pusher or crown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TTK Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 In all fairness.....the Panerai has been opened a number of times.....so it's entirely possible that I've 'pinched' the gasket...or it's not seated properly......but I was MIGHTILY impressed by the 'noobmariner'.....especially with the wide temperature variances...coming from sauna or turkish into a VERY cold plunge pool......! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filantoro Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 In all fairness.....the Panerai has been opened a number of times.....so it's entirely possible that I've 'pinched' the gasket...or it's not seated properly......but I was MIGHTILY impressed by the 'noobmariner'.....especially with the wide temperature variances...coming from sauna or turkish into a VERY cold plunge pool......! There's a reason why they call it a Rolex... Now I know I'd gotta get that "Perfect" Submarineer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 There's a reason why they call it a Rolex... Good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 I'm surprised either watch made it through that torture course. Either way, brilliant post, TTK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Your results are consistent with what I find on reps in general. They all tend to be "waterproof" for swimming purposes but the minute you go into a true steam shower or steam room they fog up. PAM's are just too big with too many places for steam to creep in. By the way I find that too be true on gens. Steam is the killer, not ordinary temperature water. That Noobmariner is impressive though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 There's a reason why they call it a Rolex... Now I know I'd gotta get that "Perfect" Submarineer... It took a year to make that one...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filantoro Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Good one. Robust when you decide to close your eyes and relex in a steam bath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Robust when you decide to close your eyes and relex in a steam bath. You're thinking of the wrong brand, that's Rolax. Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 The problem comes from a gasket, but as it only appeared in a hot environment, not in a cold environment (even if at higher pressure) or warm environment ('hot' plunge pool), it's unlikely coming from a pinched gasket. More likely, the gasket does not compensate for the metal dilatation with heat. Possibly an old gasket that lost its elasticity, or (even more likely) not properly sealed with silicon grease one of the times that the watch has been opened and closed? Just my 0.02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FasTTaP Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 That's what I call a crash test !!! Great post :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005SUBMARINER Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 i dont think that pams are as water tight from the factory as the submariners with the screw in crown & 3 crown / stem gaskets .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Cant wait to get mine!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochenbrau Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 All hail the Noobmariner!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usil Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 That is discouraging. I have a Green sub and it is a nice looking watch there is no doubt about that but I have not worn it 2 times in the past year. It has the absolute nicest feel when I turn the crown, give it a few winds and set the time. Better than any other watch I have. Yet, there it sets. Glad to know that it can take a licking and keeps on ticking. On the other hand, my 187 I got from Neil, I will definitely get it checked out before committing it to the water. Usil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 That is discouraging. I have a Green sub and it is a nice looking watch there is no doubt about that but I have not worn it 2 times in the past year. It has the absolute nicest feel when I turn the crown, give it a few winds and set the time. Better than any other watch I have. Yet, there it sets. Glad to know that it can take a licking and keeps on ticking. On the other hand, my 187 I got from Neil, I will definitely get it checked out before committing it to the water. Usil It doesn't mean that because Neil's SUb passed the test and the 187 failed this is the case with all the similar watches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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