rkdk Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Hi guys. Just got my killer franken from a fellow member here, and now the hunt begins for improvements. Can anyone help me determine if this is a gen dial? Im really no expert. Cheers RKDK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 If that's not a genuine dial, then it's the best aftermarket black dial I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeto72 Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 yep..100% gen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UmpaHimself Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 If that's not a genuine dial, then it's the best aftermarket black dial I've ever seen. yep..100% gen... Seems to be no question. Is there an obvious tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipbip Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 GEN IMHO The réal question is the price ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TgfRulez Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Yes, what's the price? Sent from my iPhone 5C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denimhead Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Certainly looks Gen, and incredibly clean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdubis Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueprince Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) Gen, i think it might be one that Minh had and offered me a while ago and is now sold, i guess the new owner selling it on. Edit - Same style and model of dial but not the actual same one, Minh's had dirtier sub dials and lume dot damage on different plots. Edited October 12, 2014 by theblueprince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkdk Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Hi guys. Thanks for your input. Im still sharking this one, so ill let you know if i get it :-) cheers RKDK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Seems to be no question. Is there an obvious tell? As a whole, it's more the absence of negative tells: Sharp printing with characters spaced properly and serifs where they should be, correct dishing/grooving of the subdials, Singer coronet, disintegrating tritium spots... I can only guess what this thing is going for these days, but I figure anything less than $3000 would be a good buy. Yes, that's the world we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeto72 Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 In this shape...$3800-$4500.00 USD....maybe more.. Vintage 1972-1974. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueprince Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Crazy prices now. Minh wanted about $2900 for his more "patina'd" one. I passed and thought i'd hold out for a Sigma then had a fit of sense and picked up an early Tritium service dial for $1600. At least you wouldn't lose money on it if kept in same condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 In this shape...$3800-$4500.00 USD....maybe more.. Vintage 1972-1974. J, you're probably right about the value. I thought this might be a slightly later dial due to the high ROC and lack of sigmas, but nailing down the production years of these black dials confuses me. Was there any pattern as to when the sigmas appeared? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeto72 Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Sigma's are even more expensive...the batons are 18K white gold and there is speculation that the coronet is as well...... If you have a sigma dial in like condition...70-72....$5500-$6500.00 USD, 73-74........$5800-$6800.00 USD, 75.....$8500-$10,000.00 USD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeto72 Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Sigmas appeared in late 1970....there were three versions.... up to 1975. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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