Bart Cordell Posted September 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 At this point it sounds like we don't know if the $128 5512 with the 2813 movement is the same version or not. We almost need someone to order one to find out.Josh said me the 5512 is not more available with DG2813 when I ordered. Pretty good base. I would love to see more details of the 93150. I may need to get the entire thing for a semi decent bracelet. Thanks for sharing. Sorry for the bad photos quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Pretty good base. I would love to see more details of the 93150. I may need to get the entire thing for a semi decent bracelet. Thanks for sharing. the clasp doesnt look to be correct, and the endlinks have the notch. end link connector is still folded, instead of one piece.i dont think the bracelet is a new and improved version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 A set of WSO 580 endlinks would solve the notch issue. Someone on another forum pointed out something important, though. If you look at the pics of the watch on Josh's site and then compare these to the watch the OP actually received, they are not the same case. The website still shows the old style short and stubby crown guards. You will have to make sure you really check your QC pics carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Cordell Posted September 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 QC pics of a first watch. I refuse it because the dial was misaligned. QC pics from the watch I received. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 The bracelet could work. WC and website definitely an interesting thing I wonder when they'll update. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Am I seeing things wrong, or are the crown guards different on the one you received than the ones on the first watch? Maybe it is the angle the watch was positioned in for the first batch of QC pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Cordell Posted September 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Am I seeing things wrong, or are the crown guards different on the one you received than the ones on the first watch? Maybe it is the angle the watch was positioned in for the first batch of QC pics.I think it's the photo angle and light. CG end disappeared on bright light. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I think it's the photo angle and light. CG end disappeared on bright light. Good. I was thinking that might be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 the case back and bezel ring are better on the version with the stumpy CGs. 1 step forward, 2 steps back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 the case back and bezel ring are better on the version with the stumpy CGs. 1 step forward, 2 steps backWhat is wrong with the caseback and the bezel? Is there a better caseback we should use? How about the bezel? Which source (or sources) would you recommend for those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marrickvilleboy Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 caseback and bezel looks same to me?What size is the dial? still 26mm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Cordell Posted September 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mendota Explorer Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 /uploads/monthly_2015_09/new_cartel.jpg.6c50a79dffe675aa3424ea206c41b5c3.jpg" rel="external nofollow">I don't really see the difference with the bezel ring, but I definitely see the difference with the caseback. The new one is much thicker. Where can we source a better one? On the wrist it might not be a big deal, other than making the watch head ride higher like a sea dweller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacher62 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 The 93150 bracelet still has the "flat" connector link next to the case. It is not a curved one-piece like we want.That case back really is a bubble back...wow. Never seen anything like it. I like the CGs though. I have one of the old ones...never wear it.OP...don't forget: a 40-year-old watch would not have any lume. (I'd have to have it lumed as well.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Cordell Posted September 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 I know about old watch lume. But there is an inconsistency. This one is new, and hands and pearl have lume. So why not dial ?Anyway I will lume it soon. I ordered a kit and oilers. Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesj Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Just got my qc pics from toro for a cartel 1680 (using it as a base for a 5513). he had pics of the old one with stumpy cg's on his site, but the qc pics are for this new one. cg's are a lot better, but the lugs need to be reshaped and that caseback has to go. Any good options for replacing it?Pics: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Cordell Posted October 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 You're lucky to have lume !Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesj Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 yeah. dial's getting replaced with a yuki one though You're lucky to have lume ! Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 yeah. dial's getting replaced with a yuki one though How much was the sub on Toro's site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesj Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 How much was the sub on Toro's site?$263 with EMS shipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 $263 with EMS shippingonly eta? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesj Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 only eta?no a21j afaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlf Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 I think I have the 'new' version mine has STAILESS STEEL engravings, it has the fat caseback and the thick bezel.The case isn't as good as the old one plus the tube hole is drilled even lower than before which is terrible, you can always swap the bezel and caseback but the crown position will always be naff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 I think I have the 'new' version mine has STAILESS STEEL engravings, it has the fat caseback and the thick bezel.The case isn't as good as the old one plus the tube hole is drilled even lower than before which is terrible, you can always swap the bezel and caseback but the crown position will always be naff.I really like the pics from the toro 1680 posted above. The crown position is dead center. Only thing is I'd have to get a new dial for a 5512 build. What do you think of it? Did you also purchase the same Josh Cartel 5512? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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