chrgod Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 I just came across this discussion on Timezone. Can't see that it has been mentioned here, so I thought it could be of interest. It is the classic "I want to buy this watch, but is it fake?" discussion. The watch in question is the timeless Seamaster Professional , Bond-watch. I belive that the watch in question is real; The pearl is a tad too good for a rep and the crown guards are excellent... It even has a serial number on the seven o'clock lug.. As far as I know it is only the newest SMP Chronograph replica and the ultimate PO which have an engraved serial number. I have never seen the Bond model replica with an engraved serial number.. The plast tag has the same number. The wave pattern on the dial looks a bit weak, though.. However. Several TZ members think this watch is fake.. End links looks wrong, Omega logo is wrong, hippocampus tail looks odd, font on "Professional Chronometer" looks odd... It is fun too see how they discuss the minor details, just like us! One interesting thing they mention is that the openings in the back of the endlinks for the spring bars are too square... "It should be more rounded". The funny thing is that my SMP replica actually has nice rounded openings for the spring bars! Anyway..here is the discussion. http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tre...ev=&reveal= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Too funny. I would bet money the one above is genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Too funny. I would bet money the one above is genuine. I agree. It's a little worrying, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Had 4 of these and that one is real for sure!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
who Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 that's why I love this place..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nietzsche0904 Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Couple be a real watch retrofitted with some aftermarket parts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r11co Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 That is 100% real. The date-window is spot-on, and the 'perfect' pearl is only a recent development on reps with the advent of the SMP chrono and uPO. Plus no standard SMP rep came with such a shallow caseback - only the 007's ever sported 2892 which would allow such a fitting and the caseback on them is of course a different design. Rounded end-link access holes are the sign of a later model 'closed factory' rep (ie. 2824 based one). This is quite funny actually, and indeed suggests that some people have ended up with gen watches with aftermarket bracelets attached. Having said that, the closed factory bracelet was a masterpiece anyway - as good as the gen and I have my watchmaker's word for that - and the rounded access holes are nothing you can't fix with some care and a square needle-file..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltic Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Further down there's a post of someone who bought a 4th Generation 42mm PO thinking it was real for $1500! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavor flav Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 that's too funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltic Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 that's too funny! Err, no it's not. I certainly wouldn't be laughing if I'd bought a watch I thought was genuine in good faith to be told via a website it was a fake. It seems he has had his money refunded so that's something. At least we know they are reps when we get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takashi Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 The above picture is definitely a genuine SMP. Correct He valve placement, datefont and placement, the pearl and bezel colour. All looks genuine to me. The genuine has those serial number on the lugs with that dirty/dark look. Same as my gen SMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marrickvilleboy Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 no the bracelet is what is in question. the endlinks tell me that the bracelet is fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spa Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Those dial markers simply don't exist on the rep... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermanx Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 The smp has been around for over 10 years, there are plently floating around with aftermarket parts (especially considering the price of omega's band)... A 60 serial number is a 90's production date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddhead Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 That is 100% real. The date-window is spot-on, and the 'perfect' pearl is only a recent development on reps with the advent of the SMP chrono and uPO. Plus no standard SMP rep came with such a shallow caseback - only the 007's ever sported 2892 which would allow such a fitting and the caseback on them is of course a different design. Rounded end-link access holes are the sign of a later model 'closed factory' rep (ie. 2824 based one). This is quite funny actually, and indeed suggests that some people have ended up with gen watches with aftermarket bracelets attached. Having said that, the closed factory bracelet was a masterpiece anyway - as good as the gen and I have my watchmaker's word for that - and the rounded access holes are nothing you can't fix with some care and a square needle-file..... wow. that was an impressive assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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