PO 007 from Trusty

[TeeJay]

Maybe you guys should get the gen diverstrap?

Maybe the factory should put the right strap on it to begin with

[who]

I like my u.PO better......and of course the best match will be u.po with rubber strap

[By-Tor]

Maybe the factory should put the right strap on it to begin with

I agree. I don't like the 007 version at all (gen or rep)... but without the strap it makes ZERO sense.

[dgruter]

I agree. I don't like the 007 version at all (gen or rep)... but without the strap it makes ZERO sense.

and they SCREWED UP THE DIAL LOGO ONCE AGAIN. If they got it right for the 4th generation 42MM, why can't they fix it for the Ultimate PO. I have a gen strap that fits my 5th Generation PO 45MM (correct 22MM lugs, wrong shape and size dial logo) perfecly IMHO (only about a 1/2 MM gap between the bracelet and the case when I put it on, hardly noticeable) son I am not worried about the strap. I had delayed a purchased of the Ultimate because of the logo issue, and hoped it was going to be fixed with the 007 PO (then I was just going to swap dials). Guess I'll just have to keep on looking for a gen dial on the internet (anybody know where I can get one?) or just buy the Ultimate.

[TeeJay]

and they SCREWED UP THE DIAL LOGO ONCE AGAIN. If they got it right for the 4th generation 42MM, why can't they fix it for the Ultimate PO. I have a gen strap that fits my 5th Generation PO 45MM (correct 22MM lugs, wrong shape and size dial logo) perfecly IMHO (only about a 1/2 MM gap between the bracelet and the case when I put it on, hardly noticeable) son I am not worried about the strap. I had delayed a purchased of the Ultimate because of the logo issue, and hoped it was going to be fixed with the 007 PO (then I was just going to swap dials). Guess I'll just have to keep on looking for a gen dial on the internet (anybody know where I can get one?) or just buy the Ultimate.

Have you tried ofrei.com for the dial?

[dgruter]

Have you tried ofrei.com for the dial?

Yes, but on their website they only carry the dial for the 42MM, not the 45MM. I live outside the US so going to their store is out of the question. I have sent various emails inquiring about the dial but they all went unanswered. I even called them, but they asked for the Model and Case Number. I have the Model number but don't have the case number. Can anyone provide the case number for the PO 45MM (black/white)?

[r11co]

Fishy. Something smells real bad here. One dealer gets all our intelligence WRT this watch and then another one launches a rep of it on the market.

A pretty pointless rep at that. No rubber strap - what is that all about?!!

Edit: The pictures have been pulled from the site ad page (although still available in the directory).

[Logan]

Not fishy.. just the way the rep business works.. many little factories making many little parts assembled in many little factories in many little places.. no conspiracy.

I have no doubt we'll see a decent rep of this in due course like we always do.

I'm puzzled by the lack of the rubber strap so far though.. my experiance dealing with chinese manufacturers is you have a prototype within 12 hours and full production in 24 so I can't imagine why its looking like being months??

[r11co]

Fair enough. I've just noticed that the edition number on the caseback is not the one we were expecting from the dealer we were lliasing with anyway, so there's a fair chance we'll see something better from elsewhere very soon.

The dial is still wrong because the dial is unchanged from the uPO - there are no detail changes between the genuine standard PO and the CR Special Edition so there was no need for the rep makers to re-tool. All this rep amounts to is a uPO with two parts changed.

WRT these special editions, I can see the point of owning a genuine one as a collectors piece (I'd love a 40th Anniversary SMP, but never to wear), but reps of these just don't float my boat. I've said that countless times before.

This release is a non-event for me as I was counting on the strap appearing at the same time. As a rep this watch is utterly pointless for countless reasons.

[Pugwash]

Fair enough. I've just noticed that the edition number on the caseback is not the one we were expecting from the dealer we were lliasing with anyway, so there's a fair chance we'll see something better from elsewhere very soon.

This version is probably to capitalise on sales before the decent version comes out.

[fitmic]

r11co>>

Excuse me, but what do you mean by WRT?

[b16a2]

Think it stands for 'With Reference To'

[r11co]

This version is probably to capitalise on sales before the decent version comes out.

Co-incides with worldwide launch of the movie on DVD, so plenty publicity at the moment. Rushed on to the market unfinished, which makes me wonder why the pictures have been pulled.

I still think it is a stinky, cynical rep that misses the point (ie. the strap).

[rsv123]

Co-incides with worldwide launch of the movie on DVD, so plenty publicity at the moment. Rushed on to the market unfinished, which makes me wonder why the pictures have been pulled.

I still think it is a stinky, cynical rep that misses the point (ie. the strap).

I would agree, I don't want a 007 special edition anyway - don't like the gen - all I am after is the 22mm rubber strap.

Of course, the irony here is that the trustytime website uses a shot of a PO on a rubber strap as part of a bondian background... and they don't even sell the watch that appears in their pictures!

[fitmic]

The pics from Andrew and Josh are they from the same watch Silix was talking about?

[b16a2]

I hope not!

[fitmic]

Me neither!

[JohnnyChingas]

Me neither!

Edited: So there is no confusion that I have caused by myself in my own words.....

To everyone and anyone in this thread/in the replica community.

In my initial post (this but in unedited form) I made some smart ass comments and disrepected certain members concerning their replica buying/collecting habits.

I grouped EVERYONE that has a rep into a category of trying to fool the general public.

This is NOT the case as I have found out. I didn't think twice and I sincerely wish to apologize for those comments.

For the record (lol!) I love replicas. Everything about them. Even though they are copies I have been collecting them since 1997, going to Venice Beach and finding those horrible copies no one has probably seen unless they have purchased 10.00 reps from Mexico......

That being said I realize flaws, no matter big or small will always be inherent on most pieces.

I still don't understand the reasoning for buying/collecting reps other than for what I have used them for (closed minded I know) but would I love to learn more about the other reasons a lot of you seem to have for your replica fetishs....

Truth be told I was probably one of the first to buy the 007 watch Andrew was selling for the 3 day promo.....

That is why I got butt hurt when I saw the bashing of this rep, not fully knowing why most didn't like it, most notably the "unfixed" issues it still have lingering...

I realize different people like different things.

I love JB, Casino Royale and the great Job Daniel Craig did to put a different spin on want Bond was in our eyes watching Pierce,Sean,Timothy, Rodger....

So please accept my apology before I cry and understand I meant no disrespect.

I'm ghetto!! It's my excuse.

I'm 28. I'm immature I guess I need to grow up... When I grew up we fought each other in the street and the next day we were cool.

My bad guys. It won't happen again....

Okay-Commence 007 Flame session

Edited March 26, 2007 by JohnnyChingas

[rsv123]

Maybe you guys should get the gen diverstrap?

It costs about

[who]

Why are all of you fussing over a watch that IS not authentic?

Obviously you all want to fool others it is real, hence the complaining of the "unfixed" isues.

Buy the real one OR STFU.

It IS a replica. An imitation, not a 100% copy.

If they were 100% Omega would not be successful.

I am trying to understand why the 007 PO is negatively looked upon?

Anyone shed some light on this.

I mean even a good replica won't fool me.... All of those so'called rolex subs that people get fooled by still look fake. The SEL gap between the case gives it away EVERY time. Why doesn't anyone complain about this?

OR how about the wrong O in Rolex on the dial?

why can't we complaint? we are having fun to point out all the flaws......don't you?

[b16a2]

It's nothing to do with fooling people.

We were told that a Casino Royal version would be released. We are rep enthusiasts, so naturally when one is released that is the same as a previous model but with different hands and case back, we will point out the flaws and slight disappointment when they had such a good basis to work form and improve. Biggest of all, the worng bracelet/strap!

[TeeJay]

Why are all of you fussing over a watch that IS not authentic?

Obviously you all want to fool others it is real, hence the complaining of the "unfixed" isues.

Buy the real one OR STFU.

It IS a replica. An imitation, not a 100% copy.

If they were 100% Omega would not be successful.

I am trying to understand why the 007 PO is negatively looked upon?

Anyone shed some light on this.

I mean even a good replica won't fool me.... All of those so'called rolex subs that people get fooled by still look fake. The SEL gap between the case gives it away EVERY time. Why doesn't anyone complain about this?

OR how about the wrong O in Rolex on the dial?

Why did you sign up to post on a forum dedicated to replica watches, if you're going to [censored] and make assumptions about people's motivations?

Here's something a bit more obvious. There are plenty of people posting on these forums who could afford to buy the genuine watches with the spare change in their pockets, yet they still buy replicas. Surely that says something about the value (or the lack thereof) of the genuine watches.

Just because it is a replica, does not mean that people have to accept a needlessly inaccurate replica, which this watch is.

Why is the 007 PO negatively looked upon? For the simple reason that James Bond would never wear a watch with his code number splashed all over it. Also for the reason that it was not the same as the watch Daniel Craig wore in Casino Royale. The 007 PO, just like the other '007 Seamasters', are nothing more than marketing ploys to sell watches to people (Bond fans/Watch collectors or both) who will buy the watch simply because it has 007 splashed over the dial. Nothing wrong with the 45mm PO on resin at all, but the Limited Editions are just a joke. The reason why this particular watch is getting panned, is because it is needlessly inaccurate. If 'not even a good replica' will fool you, why are you posting here?

[JohnnyChingas]

Why did you sign up to post on a forum dedicated to replica watches, if you're going to [censored] and make assumptions about people's motivations?

I thought it was obvious.

I like the idea of wearing a similarly looking/ made product at about a tenth of the original's list price...That being said I know for a fact a replica WILL have flaws. If you get a 'perfect' looking identical rep then that is awesome for you!

Please don't tell me you collect replicas knowing there isn't a direct connection between looking like you wear the authentic version....Because IF are going to tell me you wear/collect replicas because you are an "enthusiast" you are just plain FOS.

You BECAME an enthusiast looking at/purchasing replicas after the fact. Not before...

EDIT:Okay that was stupid for me to say. Perhaps you have another reason for buying reps. Whatever your reason man, it's all good.

If you collect them then hey, man thats cool, collecting imitations but for those, who wish to wear these "fakes" you are clearly out to misrepresent the fake you purchased AS an original.

EDIT:This isn't true for everyone. "I" bought reps in the past to fool people they were authentic...I assumed you did the same. Again, my bad sir.

Here's something a bit more obvious. There are plenty of people posting on these forums who could afford to buy the genuine watches with the spare change in their pockets, yet they still buy replicas. Surely that says something about the value (or the lack thereof) of the genuine watches.

I agree to an extent.

Example: I owned and sold a real Green Submariner LV....

The replicas do not look the same at all. They are similar but QC and better sourced parts OWNED the reps I have seen. I have read countless stories of people unintentionally fooling AD's of their watches true origin because they thought it looked that good.

I can assure you I can tell and that is why it is very hard in my eyes to fool people when they can't even get the rehault,exact text and SEl problem fixed on any replica. If they did I would wear it easily. Not to mention the wrong hour markers.....

EDIT:I don't claim to be an expert but I have an eye for this sort of thing. I can tell by looking at a pic if it is Gen or rep if I am familiar with the model and/or have owned it in the past or present. I have read posts where the rep wearer intended to fool the AD, didn't mean to lump ALL of those in here like that.

Why is the 007 PO negatively looked upon? For the simple reason that James Bond would never wear a watch with his code number splashed all over it. Also for the reason that it was not the same as the watch Daniel Craig wore in Casino Royale. The 007 PO, just like the other '007 Seamasters', are nothing more than marketing ploys to sell watches to people (Bond fans/Watch collectors or both) who will buy the watch simply because it has 007 splashed over the dial. Nothing wrong with the 45mm PO on resin at all, but the Limited Editions are just a joke. The reason why this particular watch is getting panned, is because it is needlessly inaccurate. If 'not even a good replica' will fool you, why are you posting here?

I registered to buy replicas.

And I have been very apprehensive doing so due to certain problems i.e;the same problems you and others look at when critiquing prospective watch purchases.....

2nd, you are not James Bond.

Nor is Daniel Craig. No doubt sales of gen PO's have probably increased since Casino Royale came out But Daniel Craig wore a REAL Planet Ocean. Not a replica.

It is cool I guess if you want to sport a 45mm PO with the correct strap and logo on the dial.

EDIT:I don't even know why I said this. I was trying to be smart ass....trying is the word....

After reading your post I now understand why it has been ripped.

I do think that holding true to Bond's character i.e; having knowledge of the best, top of the line and by wearing it, driving it I think you'd be hardpressed to find Bond with a replica on his wrist.

Reps are made for whatever reason the manuf's decide.

Why they are purchased however, for whatever reason is to fool the unsuspecting admirerer.

Edit:This is also not all 100% true. People are different and I realize that. The above is not true for you. It was what I used to do/think. But I'd never sell a fake as a gen. That is cheap......

Edited March 26, 2007 by JohnnyChingas

[FxrAndy]

A Lot of people collect reps because they could never afford a number of watches they want to have, i have a couple of gens but could never afford the 12 reps that i have in gen as well. I try to fool no one except my self, if some one admires what i am wearing i will tell them it is a rep and even tell them the faults with it. I do want a Bond PO not because i think i am JB or want to fool people i am, but because i am a bit of a JB fan, (i am getting a 007 dupont and when it is out also the vintage sub)

So JonnyC your oppinion is only that, and thinking that you know every ones motivation for buying reps the ony person you fool is your self!

Why they are purchased however, for whatever reason is to fool the unsuspecting admirerer.

If you want to understand this hobby as you state then stop thinking you know why we buy them, if you will never be happy with an imitation then what are you doing here in the first place?

[r11co]

Don't you just love a newbie who (a) thinks every forum he joins came into being the moment they arrived and ( doesn't appreciate the irony of their own posts.

@JohnnyChingas - go read, read, and read again some of the most popular threads in here and then if you think it is still necessary come asking your questions. In the meantime stop wasting your time and ours.