Pugwash Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Pride isn't about celebrating gayness. It's about celebrating the fact one can be openly gay. It's a "look how far we've come" statement. I doubt, however, pride festivals happen that far away from major urban centres, proving that we haven't in fact advanced that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 The analogy between "homophobia" (silly word) and racism os irrational. A person's race is an intrinsic, biologically based state. Homosexuality is a form of behavior. It is not bigoted to disapprove of a person's behavior. You say behaviour, others say state. You're saying there's a choice involved, others say there isn't. Bigotry is not entertaining the possibility that it might be biological, because you know best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warburg Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Warburg, I'm just a newbie, and somehow my words were what inflamed this thread into something which were not intended. Even so, I'd like to ask, no to plead with people for this thread not to descend further than what it has, by posting our opinions about homosexuality (or politics, religion, anything outside of the context of rep watches). If we do, it could be visceral, never-ending, and frankly, silly. There is, although I haven't checked because I have never found a need to chat OT on a forum before, an "Off Topic" area on this site, yes? I suggest that if we want to discuss these contentious topics, that we do so there. We're here mostly to have fun. Let's do so. I wasn't aware of posting any opinion about homosexuality, politics, or religion. What I thought I was doing was criticizing some of the politically correct, high-minded moral judgments that pour out whenever someone even implies that he is less than totally accepting of homosexual behavior or any other kind of behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreww Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 I'm far from a homophobe. I have known many gay and lesbians, and have found most to be very colorful and kind people. Living in Toronto, the home of one of the worlds largest Pride parades, I have never understood how publicly flaunting deviant behavior, public nudity, and performing public acts that would get you arrested on any other day can be considered as pride. Every year the mayor is front and center, not because he wants to, but because he has to. Politicians are in my opinion extorted into hosting this debacle, lest they feel the ramifications of the gay voters, who always turn out in large numbers. Believe me, most hetro people feel the same way, but will never speak up for fear of being labeled a bigot or homophobe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Some of you guys crack me up. Like there's a way to eliminate gayness. BTW, I think the watch is a Chopard Luc Pro 1 Diver. ON EDIT: Actually, I don't. I didn't look at the zoom pic or the strap closely enough. It's a Cartier chrono. Oh, and BTW, you guys who don't like "gay" watches better get rid of those 187's because the flamingest designer on HGTV wears one on a regular basis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warburg Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 You say behaviour, others say state. You're saying there's a choice involved, others say there isn't. Bigotry is not entertaining the possibility that it might be biological, because you know best. Good Lord, did I imply that homosexual thoughts, ideas, or urges were a matter of choice or that the condition might not be biologically determined? I thought that I specifically referred to "behavior." Can you imagine judging people's morality by their urges, however biologically determined? I've even had the urge to steal. Civilization consists of controlling and channeling socially destructive urges. It would be bigoted to judge people by their states of mind or emotions, but having a moral sense results in approving of some actions and disapproving of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 I wasn't aware of posting any opinion about homosexuality, politics, or religion. What I thought I was doing was criticizing some of the politically correct, high-minded moral judgments that pour out whenever someone even implies that he is less than totally accepting of homosexual behavior or any other kind of behavior. Warburg, you posted an opinion about homosexuality being a behaviour. That is an opinion, and please do not reply that it is or isn't: I'm simply uninterested in discussing such a weighty topic on A REPLICA WATCH FORUM with total strangers. That's something best reserved for friends, family, at the voting booth...and failing all else, in the OT area of this forum, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Some of you guys crack me up. Like there's a way to eliminate gayness. BTW, I think the watch is a Chopard Luc Pro 1 Diver. ON EDIT: Actually, I don't. I didn't look at the zoom pic or the strap closely enough. It's a Cartier chrono. Oh, and BTW, you guys who don't like "gay" watches better get rid of those 187's because the flamingest designer on HGTV wears one on a regular basis... Last night, I went to the Bvlgari site and actually, like a fool, looked at their watches for hours (okay, 20 minutes) trying to determine if it were one, or not. I have a real Bvlgari, and the wristband is very distinctive, which Mayor Newsom's resembled. But I think you are right about the Cartier chrono, actually. And for the record, with his slicked back hair, and elegant demeanour, I would've sworn he were not a Pannie-lover, but more into Vacheron Constantins. If he were the Parisian mayor, he certainly would sport at least a Breguet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pwygant Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 I still think it is some sort of Bvlgari Diagono... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 I still think it is some sort of Bvlgari Diagono... That's what I thought too, since as I mentioned above, it's precisely the watch I have, used for sporting occasions like tennis, etc. But the bezel is all wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwygant Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 That's what I thought too, since as I mentioned above, it's precisely the watch I have, used for sporting occasions like tennis, etc. But the bezel is all wrong. Perhaps a bad rep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Perhaps a bad rep? THAT would make my day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 THAT would make my day. "To: The Honourable Gavin Newsom" Dear Sir, Dude, you totally harshed our RWG mellow with your substandard, rep Bvlgari wristwatch worn recently at "Pride". We, the undersigned, suggest you look into the following list of reputable vendors in future. http://www.ttwristwatch.com/ http://www.perfectclones88.com/ http://www.pam111.com/ http://www.silix-prime.com/ Tell them Dutchy sent ya. Sincerely, The Replica Watch Group" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 This thread has gone so far off track it's now doing no one any good therefore I'm shutting it down. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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