khumzi Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 OK, so here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlydog Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 I like the understated and simplistic lines of the base models without second hands. I also like the quirky uniqueness of a destro. Would you consider the 112, 176 or the 219? Look here: http://www.paneristi.com/reference/vendome...meframeset.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 In short, what statement do you think PAMs make in general"Let's see if you are a watch connoisseur (you cannot pretend you don't see it)" and these two models in particular?considering their lacking a date: "Either I have a good memory, or I don't care what day it is" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subzero1 Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Get the 111, it dresses up nicer for an office setting, the 177 is pretty much a casual watch no matter what strap you put on it. The 111 can dress up or dress down, the 177 cannot dress up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 I'd have to disagree, subz. I think the 177 on a black gator would look plenty dressy. Is it the brushed finish of the Ti that you think is more casual? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khumzi Posted September 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 SSurfer: Excellent comment re the lack of date. In truth I do use my watches to check the date from time to time but find that because I'm quite often planning meetings these days that I have a good memory for dates, etc. (Ha! How about a Moon phase PAM?! No, not really.) SubZero1: Yes, I'm definitely leaning that way, although I will check out the base models Vlydog suggests... Where's the style guru, Mlle Strap?! VBarrett, I'd really value your view too! Thanks, Khumz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subzero1 Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 I'd have to disagree, subz. I think the 177 on a black gator would look plenty dressy. Is it the brushed finish of the Ti that you think is more casual? Yes, exactly right - the 177 (which I have, as well as a 111), definitely is more sporty with it's darker case and brushed finish. A 111 on a black gator is much dressier than a 177 on the same black gator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 OK, so here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khumzi Posted September 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 :lol: Ahg, the first stone has been thrown! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 OK, so here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 OOH! Sorry, Khumzi...I've been busy today, as I will tomorrow, but I finally saw this other post calling out to me. OK, so here’s the thing. I’m a psychotherapist My mum too. This is why I'm so messed up. and I’m worrying about wearing a PAM. It’s not exactly a low statement watch… On the wrong person, Panerai watches can look gimmicky. If my father were at all into PAMs, and were doing hospital rounds with them, I would actually think they would look out of place, to be TOTALLY honest. Patients want reassurance. There is this medical doctor dad knows who does sock-puppet tricks when checking his patients (no, not a paediatrician, which would PERHAPS make sense), and wears kipper ties as part of his "bedside manner". Sure, some enjoy it, but most of the people look at him like he's a freak. Even the nurses don't take him that seriously. In your case, err on the conservative side. It's STILL Panerai, and therefore SUPER-COOL! I suppose I could not get one or only wear it out of office hours but the thing is that I’d really like one and to wear it. I have the dreaded bug, the irrational desire, the school kid in the toyshop syndrome… I’m a PAMoholic and strap fetishist in the making! First, whichever PAM you choose, even the pricey DSN or modded TWP ones, I can assure you will turn around a few months later, and buy the other choice you give us below, SO, with that in mind. So, I would really appreciate your advice: a 111 or a 117? The 117 is less “in your face” but is it missing the whole point of the Panerai ethos? And will I pine for the heft and shine of the 111? ...my answer is an unequivocal "Go with the PAM 111" from TWP, as you said. And take advantage of the 50% off coupon to get yourself one of these three Mario Pacis (since you mentioned them specifically): Mario Paci Special Edition Cognac Mario Paci Decima (X) Bourgogne Mario Paci XIII "3646" in Nero ...they will all look awesome eventually with your PAM 117, which is definitely quirky enough to buy later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 "Let's see if you are a watch connoisseur (you cannot pretend you don't see it)" Panerais say: I don't give a f*ck what people think of me. I'm confident, and you're my slave! Pussy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 How about a Moon phase PAM?! The only statement a moonphase PAM brings: "Here is a Werewolf" Not recommended to psychotherapists, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khumzi Posted September 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Personally, I feel the term PAMophile more accurate than PAMoholic, as these watches really are fetishistic perversions of watches, rather than addicting vices Oh, you're good... v good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khumzi Posted September 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Panerais say: I don't give a f*ck what people think of me. I'm confident, and you're my slave! Pussy! You see, you see, that's just what I mean!! You write a brilliant reply (thank you), full of excellent, considered and encouraging advice, and then you have to go say that!!! Sigh. But, I have a cunning plan... As you will no doubt know, shrinks of various hues are quite good at turning things around (to be of help to our clients); to wit, "So, I think you're saying that you find me rather dominating [i fidget with my Fiddy and cat o'nine tails]... I'm wondering how that makes you feel?" TWP here I come. Muah ha ha ha! UPDATE: Just took the plunge! Ordered the Mario Paci Special Edition "Allora a Ora" in Senape and the MP XIII "3646" in Nero! Oh, and am putting the finishing touches to an order with T for TWP's modded 111H (inc. the crown stuff, probably). Haven't quite decided on the movement yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 You see, you see, that's just what I mean!! You write a brilliant reply (thank you), full of excellent, considered and encouraging advice, and then you have to go say that!!! Sigh. Don't try playing those psy tricks on V, khumzi. She's a female, we have no chance at tricking them (unless they want it, obviously). Better going plain and just tell her what you want. Btw, congrats on your purchase! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4GTR Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Every doctor I know is always dressed to the 9's. I see nothing wrong with wearing an interesting wristwatch into your practice. As long as you aren't wearing snakeskin suits and all that, you are good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 You see, you see, that's just what I mean!! You write a brilliant reply (thank you), full of excellent, considered and encouraging advice, and then you have to go say that!!! Sigh. Deal with it! And do as Sssurfer says. Man, that guy knows women. But, I have a cunning plan... As you will no doubt know, shrinks of various hues are quite good at turning things around (to be of help to our clients); to wit, "So, I think you're saying that you find me rather dominating [i fidget with my Fiddy and cat o'nine tails]... I'm wondering how that makes you feel?" Err, quite. My mother usually wears an enormous amount of jewelry on her person, you know, a bit like old Queen Mary (that would be she to the left, BTW...). Anyhoodle, the thing is when she was with patients she would always take off all her jewels, watches, and bling, save one piece, and a demure watch. It was apparently intimidating otherwise, since many patients did comment that they kept concentrating on her jewels, instead of on their reminiscences. I just don't want you to be the male equivalent, though you can't go far wrong with either the PAM 111 or 117 (maybe the destro might be quirky enough to act as an ice-breaker). UPDATE: Just took the plunge! Ordered the Mario Paci Special Edition "Allora a Ora" in Senape and the MP XIII "3646" in Nero! Oh, and am putting the finishing touches to an order with T for TWP's modded 111H (inc. the crown stuff, probably). Haven't quite decided on the movement yet... EXCELLENT CHOICES!! Movement...well, it depends really. Both will run. The question is for how long, and are you the kind of person who might be terribly embarrassed if someone around you finds out it's a rep? That's why I order my PAMs from Davidsen now, and would with TWP in Swiss version only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 My mum too. This is why I'm so messed up. My mum is also a psychotherapist. I find it defines her more than it defines me though. A Panerai 111h or 183 would be the most versatile, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 My mum is also a psychotherapist. I find it defines her more than it defines me though. Oh, it defines you, it defines you...remember all those Stanford-Binet tests your mum gave you as a child, because you were her guinea pig? How about talking into a portable recorder, as she observed you in play? How about that time she allowed you to fill out her patients' info unto the word processor, though you were only 12, and you found out what "hypnagogic hallucinations" were? Come on, you know this happened to you, Pugwash! A Panerai 111h or 183 would be the most versatile, in my opinion. PAM 183 I see more on Cardiologists. The 232 is clearly for Dermatologists only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subzero1 Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Maybe a psychiatrist should have a complicated PAM, such as a texture-dialed chronograph 253? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Maybe a psychiatrist should have a complicated PAM, such as a texture-dialed chronograph 253? Too fussy! At the outside, the Clinton PAM 089. Also, no go on the Arktos and monsters like that, IMHO. They're great sport watches, but not office watches. EDIT: Hmm, the more I think about it, the more I think the 082 Amerigo Vespucci recently showed by Maxmillian, might be a good future purchase! http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=50479 Check out Maxi's photo, Khumzi (hope he won't mind): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Maybe a psychiatrist should have a complicated PAM, such as a texture-dialed chronograph 253? Maybe. But I personally prefer the 212. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khumzi Posted September 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 V, Yup, I likee the Vespucci. It's on the list... Can't say that I'm planning on conducting any tests on my new (and first) baby (a 7 week old girl). I'm less a psychologist and more a philosopher really. She'll probably get [censored] with me for reading her Buber and Tillich instead of Spot and Barney. Banter aside, I'm not planning on wearing my snakeskin jacket (you've seen Wild at Heart?) and the 111H in client sessions. I generally hope/aim to help create "space" in sessions so don't want to clutter it up with too much of my stuff (literal and otherwise). So I guess I'm probably with your Mum on that one. I'll see what the thing is like in a few weeks time and make the call for sure then. As an aside, it can be quite handy for some clients to be able to notice the time on the therapist's watch... Thanks to all and I'm looking forward to contributing here! Khumzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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