580 or 585 endlinks what fits better for mbk / mbw 1665 and 1680 ?

[316L]

howdy !

a rolex concessionaire said there are differences.

little differences but differences.

i can get both but which are the better solution,

which fits better for the

mbk / mbw seadweller 1665 and the submariner 1680?

greetings

316L

[Guest avitt]

The 580's were original to both the 1680, and the 1665. The 585 was later developed to have a better fit on the thicker Seadweller case, and became standard on the 1665.

[316L]

but which fits better for the mbk / mbw 1665 and 1680 "CASE" ?

the 580 or the 585?

as possible without wobble and gap

Edited October 2, 2007 by 316L

[Guest avitt]

Since MBW cases are 1:1 (for the most part), please see my earlier post.

[316L]

Since MBW cases are 1:1 (for the most part), please see my earlier post.

ok, roger that!

thanks a lot avitt

[Guest kotaro]

avitt, 93150 - 580 bracelet & end piece is correct for 16610 noobmariner?

[alligoat]

Early submariner 16610's had the 93150 band with 501B end pieces. Around 2000 or so, the 92350 band with SEL's came out. SEL means solid end links which are part of the band itself and not separate like the old style. Noob has the 93250 since it is recent- 2006.

[Pugwash]

Don't forget to drill the case for genuine springbars ...

[Dizzy]

YES very important and an easy mod

Don't forget to drill the case for genuine springbars ...

[316L]

yes of course.

i will use a drill of 1,2mm for the lugholes.

and which size are the correct for the little countersink, 1,4 or 1,5mm...?

[nite]

YES very important and an easy mod

why is this so important? How genuine springbars improve the watch?

Please explain.

[freddy333]

The springbars & springbar holes (in the side of the lugs) of rep watches are usually smaller than their gen counterparts. The difference in springbar holes makes it relatively easy to spot a rep Sub or Seadweller from several feet away. If you enlarge the holes and replace the narrow rep springbars with gens (or properly sized aftermarket springbars), your rep will be one step closer to looking like a gen.

[316L]

i will use a drill of 1,2mm for the lugholes.

but which size are the correct to chamfering the 1665 and 1680 lugholes?

[freddy333]

Some people like to countersink lug holes (which is what I think you mean by 'chamfer'), but I do not think this is correct & have never done that on any of my watches. Just drill & buff, that is all

[316L]

i think you're right.

chamfering/countersink e.g. with a 6mm driller to make it closer to be a gen,

is an optical illusion.

[Tribal]

To become the gen look you must shape the lugs down a bit on both sides...

The lugs on the rep case are slighty bigger than on gen ones...

Countersink the caseholes is totally wrong,drill them and polish it.

Thats it

But for the question...

585 Endlinks for the 1665

580 Endlinks for the 1680

But 380 Endlinks match the 1680 case perfect...

[316L]

thanks a lot tribal.

But 380 Endlinks match the 1680 case perfect...

very interesting...

i know the 380b are for the tudor submariner.

explain us what makes it perfect for the 1680 case, please.