316L Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 howdy ! a rolex concessionaire said there are differences. little differences but differences. i can get both but which are the better solution, which fits better for the mbk / mbw seadweller 1665 and the submariner 1680? greetings 316L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 The 580's were original to both the 1680, and the 1665. The 585 was later developed to have a better fit on the thicker Seadweller case, and became standard on the 1665. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
316L Posted October 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 (edited) but which fits better for the mbk / mbw 1665 and 1680 "CASE" ? the 580 or the 585? as possible without wobble and gap Edited October 2, 2007 by 316L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Since MBW cases are 1:1 (for the most part), please see my earlier post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
316L Posted October 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Since MBW cases are 1:1 (for the most part), please see my earlier post. ok, roger that! thanks a lot avitt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kotaro Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 avitt, 93150 - 580 bracelet & end piece is correct for 16610 noobmariner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Early submariner 16610's had the 93150 band with 501B end pieces. Around 2000 or so, the 92350 band with SEL's came out. SEL means solid end links which are part of the band itself and not separate like the old style. Noob has the 93250 since it is recent- 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Don't forget to drill the case for genuine springbars ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 YES very important and an easy mod Don't forget to drill the case for genuine springbars ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
316L Posted October 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 yes of course. i will use a drill of 1,2mm for the lugholes. and which size are the correct for the little countersink, 1,4 or 1,5mm...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nite Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 YES very important and an easy mod why is this so important? How genuine springbars improve the watch? Please explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 The springbars & springbar holes (in the side of the lugs) of rep watches are usually smaller than their gen counterparts. The difference in springbar holes makes it relatively easy to spot a rep Sub or Seadweller from several feet away. If you enlarge the holes and replace the narrow rep springbars with gens (or properly sized aftermarket springbars), your rep will be one step closer to looking like a gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
316L Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 i will use a drill of 1,2mm for the lugholes. but which size are the correct to chamfering the 1665 and 1680 lugholes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Some people like to countersink lug holes (which is what I think you mean by 'chamfer'), but I do not think this is correct & have never done that on any of my watches. Just drill & buff, that is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
316L Posted October 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 i think you're right. chamfering/countersink e.g. with a 6mm driller to make it closer to be a gen, is an optical illusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 To become the gen look you must shape the lugs down a bit on both sides... The lugs on the rep case are slighty bigger than on gen ones... Countersink the caseholes is totally wrong,drill them and polish it. Thats it But for the question... 585 Endlinks for the 1665 580 Endlinks for the 1680 But 380 Endlinks match the 1680 case perfect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
316L Posted October 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 thanks a lot tribal. But 380 Endlinks match the 1680 case perfect... very interesting... i know the 380b are for the tudor submariner. explain us what makes it perfect for the 1680 case, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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