Tribal Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Anybody have seen this 16610 from watchmaker 9? Prices are too high,but the Sub looks good. Looks like a MBW SUb. 16610 Submariner RG Tribal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craytonic Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 its signed george... Never heard of watchmaker 9 but wasn't there a guy named George a while back who distributed MBWs? I am only 50% on this so if you know better please call me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craytonic Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 I remember the datemag on my MBW being stronger when I had it now that I look at those pics for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracker Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 It has the solid mid link braclet like the MBW does... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted June 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 its signed george... Never heard of watchmaker 9 but wasn't there a guy named George a while back who distributed MBWs? I am only 50% on this so if you know better please call me out. Yes i can remember too... That was George in Greece... Rg tribal Here is the link to ... Watchmaker 9 Rg tribal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 watchmaker9 has been around for a while. The Sub in question looks very similar to an MBW or TW Best Classic; perhaps they are sourced from the same factory... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsons Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 (edited) Hi, Tribal: I'm familiar with that website. This chaps runs a censored forum. I posted there once pointing out the high prices he charges and my post was deleted. I suspect the 16610 is a TW Best which we can get from our trusted dealers for around $260. I seriously doubt it's the MBW which is very close to the TW Best down to the off center "Swiss Made". His year 2004 Y serial SD is also the TW. Regards, Jet Edited June 10, 2006 by Jetsons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighDef Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Correct me if i am wrong guys, but I have not seen those raised crystals on his modern subs from our trusted dealers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purspeed Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Hi, Tribal: I'm familiar with that website. This chaps runs a censored forum. I posted there once pointing out the high prices he charges and my post was deleted. I suspect the 16610 is a TW Best which we can get from our trusted dealers for around $260. I seriously doubt it's the MBW which is very close to the TW Best down to the off center "Swiss Made". His year 2004 Y serial SD is also the TW. Regards, Jet Being that I just bought a TW Classic, I gotta agree that it's probably a TW Best. But, there is a chance that it's a MBW, as both have off center "swiss made." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bremerk2 Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Being that I just bought a TW Classic, I gotta agree that it's probably a TW Best. But, there is a chance that it's a MBW, as both have off center "swiss made." Hi guys, I bought one of those subs around September, October last year from Watchmaster9 . It has an ETA movement, no engravings between the lugs. Keeps time very well. Cyclops slightly out of center. Was shipped from Taiwan. And your right, I paid to much for it, but this was my first exposure to reps. Except for the price, I'm quite happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
700club Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 watchmaker9 used to be watchmaker8. different George. used to be friend to River. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighDef Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 watchmaker9 used to be watchmaker8. different George. used to be friend to River. regards How come we do not see River selling these pieces. I am confused now. Judging by the pics in that site, they look like they are better than the watches our trusted dealer are selling. At least most of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk45ca Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 How come we do not see River selling these pieces. I am confused now. Judging by the pics in that site, they look like they are better than the watches our trusted dealer are selling. At least most of it. if you want a tw best eddie lee is your man. i have a tt rolsium ym and a tt sub from him and they are both tw best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce79 Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 I'm pretty sure Roger is the name of the guy at watchmaker9. From what I read over at trc, Roger and River used to be partners back in the day, then they had a falling out of sorts. The stock from watchmaker is solid though. I got the SD from a fellow member and it originally came from Roger a couple years ago. This rep is great, nice and thick...it feels solid on my wrist. The only flaw that bugs me is the date font...and the dial printing is a little week but this is one of the few sd's with the correct caseback thickness and pretty damn near close crystal height. These are the 2 main flaws that plague the current stock of sd's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshore Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Its interesting to get a range of views on this site. My memory was that Roger took umbrage to some quite reasonable questions, which I and a couple of others posted on his forum ( maybe 3 years ago) Yes we were deleted- so regardless of what he may have had available- I deleted him from my "favourites". In fairness- this is the 1st time I can recollect- anyone posting that they had done business. As always- Caveat Emptor. Offshore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted June 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 I have compared this sub, with my MBW... I think its the same..... Maybe they have the same source for the sub.... Rg Tribal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk45ca Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 I have compared this sub, with my MBW... I think its the same..... Maybe they have the same source for the sub.... Rg Tribal i don't know where it came from but it looks very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsons Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 (edited) I'm not sure what the differences are between the MBW and TW classic 16610. They use the same case, dial, solid mid link bracelet, bezel assembly and of course, movement. I have the TW and seen many photos of the MBW. The MBW probably has better quality control but I have never had any issues with my TW. It's a very solid & quality piece. Perhaps someday, the manufacturer with opt for a more accurate dial with a centered "Swiss Made". HighDef, River carried the classic TW best models in the past and perhaps still does. Eddie has them and it remains his favorite Sub. Jet Edited June 10, 2006 by Jetsons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighDef Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 HighDef, River carried the classic TW best models in the past and perhaps still does. Eddie has them and it remains his favorite Sub. Jet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin300z Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 http://www.watchmaker9.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?t=210 After reading this, does it shed any light on the subject? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 i´ve been told about George too, a Germany based dealer. Very nice watches, but expensive indeed. Also he carries the tw ap jumbo, the one which was out of stock.... He carried out a very agressive advertising, using google adwords, you entered rolex and it showed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 (edited) It's a TW Classic. M and m don't align, bad pearl and those "pimpled" hour markers... and lousy dial. OK rep but nothing to write a song about. Edited July 4, 2006 by By-Tor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopypants Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 (edited) i am more impressed with this SD: ...SD... Still has its flaws... but is very sharp and can be turned into something nice... better HEL valve... better aligned case holes... With these people having communication with this manufacturer... you would think they would put a thicker bezel on it... PP Edited July 4, 2006 by poopypants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Hi Guys thought i would chime in, even though Iam a new to these forums. I have purchased from Watchmaker9 i have a TT sub and a standard sub, both are excellent quality, i would say they are what you call MBW. I have compared them to the dealers watches here as i have bough a few subs and iam sorry to say they do not even come close, the weight and feel and quality of Watchmaker surpasses our dealers here. The print on the dial is better under a loup, date font is correct, nice tight strong bezel click, nice polished deep rehualt, saffire crystal is better quality and raised, and most of all the case seems better finished and feels weighs heavier than my subs from our dealers here. MY two tone is solid 18crt gold bezel and midlinks on the band, and crown waterproof to 200 meters i have had it tested at my watchmaker, also each watch is individually assembled and serviced when you make an order and they come with a money back 12 month warrenty. None of our dealers can offer this. I have allways had good great customer service from them and shiiping has allways been fast, i cannot say a bad word about them, unlike our dealers here where i have recived the wrong watch, and most of the time with faults on them that i have to be sent them back, thus the low prices, you get what you pay for. I donot mind paying extra for a perfect example. Just thought i would share my experince with them. Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfire Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Hi Guys thought i would chime in, even though Iam a new to these forums. I have purchased from Watchmaker9 i have a TT sub and a standard sub, both are excellent quality, i would say they are what you call MBW. I have compared them to the dealers watches here as i have bough a few subs and iam sorry to say they do not even come close, the weight and feel and quality of Watchmaker surpasses our dealers here. The print on the dial is better under a loup, date font is correct, nice tight strong bezel click, nice polished deep rehualt, saffire crystal is better quality and raised, and most of all the case seems better finished and feels weighs heavier than my subs from our dealers here. MY two tone is solid 18crt gold bezel and midlinks on the band, and crown waterproof to 200 meters i have had it tested at my watchmaker, also each watch is individually assembled and serviced when you make an order and they come with a money back 12 month warrenty. None of our dealers can offer this. I have allways had good great customer service from them and shiiping has allways been fast, i cannot say a bad word about them, unlike our dealers here where i have recived the wrong watch, and most of the time with faults on them that i have to be sent them back, thus the low prices, you get what you pay for. I donot mind paying extra for a perfect example. Just thought i would share my experince with them. Ed Thanx for sharing your wonderful experiences with them dude... But do tell me.... Why bother still coming here?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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