HauteHippie Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Actually, I thought her attempt at looking human failed miserably. Worst acting job since Shaq in Kazaam. You be the judge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 I'm not a fan, but I was touched by what I took as a moment of truth. Also, I don't know if her fingers are fat, but do we get to question her sex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRasta Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 I'll never understand how come Shaq was not nominated for an Oscar! You are right though, no crying in politics. I may have been moved if the current discussions didn't revolve around her "hardness". Politicians are so predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 I'm not a fan, but I was touched by what I took as a moment of truth. Can you imagine Margaret Thatcher or Golda Meir getting teary-eyed like that? Oh God. Lots of people think it was staged. Not I. I believe her advisors said, after she had a disastrous debate on Saturday (looking daggers at all the men, alternating with, "That hurts my feelings", yeesh), "try be more emotional, show your vulnerable side." So whilst I think the question was a plant, and that she had that advice in the back of her mind, I think she was being genuine. Well, as genuine as a phoney can be... Anyway, she's going to lose three in a row (Iowa, NH & South Carolina). Unlike Rudy, she never had a "it's all starts in Florida" strategy, and she's in serious difficulties financially: down to 25m. Oops. EDIT: Obviously, she should adapt the Segol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertk Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 She makes ME want to cry! Where's Tom Hanks when you need him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted January 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Lots of people think it was staged. Not I. I believe her advisors said, after she had a disastrous debate on Saturday (looking daggers at all the men, alternating with, "That hurts my feelings", yeesh), "try be more emotional, show your vulnerable side." So whilst I think the question was a plant, and that she had that advice in the back of her mind, I think she was being genuine. I think the worst case scenario for her is that she was being genuine. Because first of all, and obviously, America doesn't need an emotionally unstable president at this juncture - or at any juncture for that matter. Second of all, if she was in fact being genuine then I find it extremely problematic because of WHY she was getting teary eyed. She wasn't weeping over the state of health care, the fact that more and more Americans are subject to AMT, homelessness, etc, etc. She was crying because she lost in Iowa and is poised to lose in New Hampshire today when not too long ago she was the presumptive nominee. So if she was being genuine, then she's showing a true lack of resiliency. And if the campaign trail is more than she can handle, then she certainly doesn't belong in the oval office. Luckily, though, I'm quite certain she was acting, if you can call it that. We can judge a persons true character and personality by how they behave when NOT in public or on camera. And the clear picture we have of Hillary is one of an automaton witch that you do NOT cross: http://www.thatpoliticalblog.com/serendipi...ucked!.html Does that really look like a soft, weepy woman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted January 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 I may have been moved if the current discussions didn't revolve around her "hardness". Politicians are so predictable. Absolutely. She was right on cue, wasn't she. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted January 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Also, I don't know if her fingers are fat, but do we get to question her sex? Did you hear Bill Clinton's comment the other day? "I can't make her young, tall, and male." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 I think the worst case scenario for her is that she was being genuine. You have to think of WHY she was being genuine, though, CT. Cynics like us would say she was upset because she feels 1600 slipping away. I give her the benefit of the doubt about feeling the emotion, but not as to the reasons. Others do, and I find that bewildering. Frankly, there are many reasons why she isn't doing well. For one, Americans are tired of Bushes and Clintons. Bush Clinton Clinton Bush Bush Clinton Clinton could be the potential future of America. What is this, a monarchy? I heard that last remark in the supermarket queue on Saturday. Because first of all, and obviously, America doesn't need an emotionally unstable president at this juncture - or at any juncture for that matter. Absolutely. And if the campaign trail is more than she can handle, then she certainly doesn't belong in the oval office. I couldn't agree more. I can't believe sweet, demure Condi Rice, who looks like a lady who wouldn't be capable of hurting a fly, has more balls than she does. She stared down many a personal attack in her trips abroad, with grace under pressure. Does that really look like a soft, weepy woman? Neither was this one. Like her, hate her, and there are many who will dance in the streets when she goes, but MY GOD THAT WAS A WOMAN. Moreover, that was a PRIME MINISTER. Look at those eyes, and tell me America doesn't deserve a leader of that calibre, not a fussbucket who cries every time she's attacked. P.S.: Diana Gould, who became something of a celebrity afterwards, gave as good as she got. Women are never scared of other women. At least, I'm not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted January 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Margaret was one tough cookie. So was the Israeli, Golda Meir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 WHOOPS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB7 Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I thought Hillary was pretty genuine when she got emotional...Romney's sob stories on the other hand was a complete and utter joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I thought Hillary was pretty genuine when she got emotional...Romney's sob stories on the other hand was a complete and utter joke Yeah, but he did it like a man -- inside the limo. (One of the most surprising comebacks I've personally ever seen. ALL the pundits and most of my friends were saying, "stick a fork in her, she's done") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokedose Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I know its wrong..but the watch on my right hand will last for weeks on the power reseve without any manual winding....*spank me maggie , spank me* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gioarmani Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Intriguing: gen or fake? Another response: http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/...n.emotional.cnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Intriguing: gen or fake? You'd think in a fake forum we could tell the difference, right? Another response: Nah, he's being genuine. He's the Republican Jimmy Carter... @Kokedose: LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted January 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 There was reportedly a little "Dewey Beats Truman" at NH Obama headquarters today, but I still say the pundits are overdoing it a little here. Polls are often wrong - way wrong. Pundits are often completely insane. And any time you get record turnout across all demographics, anything can happen. Any way you slice it, this is really shaping up to be an interesting next month if you're a political junkie. This thing is really wide open on both sides of the aisle with no front runners yet. It'll quite likely be a tight two person race until the end on the Democrat side, and on the Republican side the delegate leader hasn't even won a significant state yet. This is good stuff!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted January 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Intriguing: gen or fake? Another response: http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/...n.emotional.cnn LOL. "I don't think I ever feel like crying, but I do get irritable." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 It ain't over until the fat lady sings. I'm expecting some surprises on Super Tuesday. In the meantime, a simplified guide to the candidates for our non-U.S. members: http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/526482501.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 There was reportedly a little "Dewey Beats Truman" at NH Obama headquarters today, but I still say the pundits are overdoing it a little here. Polls are often wrong - way wrong. Pundits are often completely insane. And any time you get record turnout across all demographics, anything can happen. Please remind me AGAIN NEVER to listen to pundits, polls and all that junk. I can't believe I fell for the "poll/pundit" crapola again. Any way you slice it, this is really shaping up to be an interesting next month if you're a political junkie. Hate politics, but I love the process. This is why I was Clerk of a polling precinct from 2004-2007, including the fateful Presidential Election of 2004 (what a day that was -- I even had a Michael Mooreish wiseguy try to film the voters). I "retired" last year. Now I'm happy to be a spectator, because setting up that polling station was a major pain, especially since the other pollworkers were between 80 years old and death. This thing is really wide open on both sides of the aisle with no front runners yet. It'll quite likely be a tight two person race until the end on the Democrat side, and on the Republican side the delegate leader hasn't even won a significant state yet. This is good stuff!! Please note to those who don't know, that because our State, Florida, decided to up our primary to January 29th the DNC docked ALL their delegates (210 delegates lost!), and the RNC, half (now only 114). This is probably why our cable and local stations are now SATURATED with Rudy, Huckabee, and other Repub ads, but I have yet to see ONE Democratic ad on TV. Basically, if you're a Democrat in Florida, you don't count in the primaries. Sorry guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 You guys crack me up. People cry all the time. Even Cheney, when Halliburton stock goes down. BTW, of course it was staged. Of course it worked. The important thing is now you Repubs are stuck w/ Romney, which makes our primary mute 'cause any of the three wins by at least 5. Sell the stocks boys, the commies are taking over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted January 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 You guys crack me up. People cry all the time. Even Cheney, when Halliburton stock goes down. BTW, of course it was staged. Of course it worked. The important thing is now you Repubs are stuck w/ Romney, which makes our primary mute 'cause any of the three wins by at least 5. Sell the stocks boys, the commies are taking over... Well I'm no Repub, but as a pragmatist I think Romney stands a great chance in middle America vs. either Hillary or Obama. The economy is now the issue of the day - likely to be an even bigger issue near November by the looks of it - and Mitt has positioned himself as a solid fiscal conservative in stark contrast to the socialists... But I wouldn't anoint Mitt just yet. It's still a race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Ah Maggie, what a boss, i still regret the fact that she was not in charge during the first gulf war, bring her back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Well I'm no Repub, but as a pragmatist I think Romney stands a great chance in middle America vs. either Hillary or Obama. Tangentially, this is making my friends in the UK a bit worried -- they email me, asking for explanations. Who is the candidate?? Why isn't there a front-runner yet!? I'm sorry that Iowa has to be the first State in the Union to caucus, because it is so bewildering to foreigners. They expect consensus immediately. In a parliamentary system, the Party is paramount, but you have a leader: an accentuated difference n the US, when a President MUST step down, due to constitutional restraints on a 3rd term. It gives off a leaderless feeling. The last time the US had a non-presidential or vice-presidential candidate running was in 1968, when Johnson declined to run in MARCH of that year (after the New Hampshire primary, and Bob Kennedy entered the race). EDIT: Actually, just remembered. Hubert Humphrey ran, and he was Veep. Let's not forget that George Wallace split the Democratic ticket though. Enter Michael Bloomberg... It's anyone's race, but the country is not in Counter Culture turmoil. 2008 isn't 1968. However, it is the last hurrah for the 1968 generation. Hope they had a good time 'cause next stop -- retirement home, not 1600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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