whitestripes Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Hi guys, I'm after a watch that is/looks like/rep of this: The old, venerable SM300 from the past, with beautiful domed acrylic crystal and that vintage look. It would make a beautiful companion for my gen speedy pro. However, prices on the originals are sky high, even if you don't get a fake that you paid top $$ for, and the WatchCo NOS is at $2600 Australian, which is a pretty penny. That turned my attention to the Precista PRS-14, a nice homage. However, they run about $650 new, more than I want to pay, especially when I can get NICE ETA reps at $225, and this isn't even an Omega! I have also considered a mkii modded Seiko SKX007 to look the part: That would run me an estimated $150 for watch, $130 for parts, and whatever labor to install... looking at $300 and still a Seiko, which I don't mind, but I don't like the "cushion" case and 4 o'clock crown. This leaves me looking for a rep, or saving up for the Precista. Please tell me there are reps. (I know there are reps, but they are ALWAYS sold as gens on eBay for way too much). Help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrarimen Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 You are reading my mind. I need one aswell who has them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadweller4000 Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 These sometimes occur on the bay, passed off as genuine. But those prices... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrgod Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 I remember seeing rather good replicas of these.. A very good looking watch, the PO has taken some design clues from this. I think one of the easiest tells of the fake is the "A" in "Waterproof" on the caseback. On the genuine it has flat top, but on the fake it is pointed. EDIT: Here is a link. <br> hxxp://reviews.ebay.com/How-to-Spot-a-Fake-Vintage-Omega-Seamaster-300_W0QQugidZ10000000000958528?ssPageName=BUYGD:CAT:-1:SEARCH:2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 It's an awesome watch for sure, and, before I went over to PAMs, one I really wanted to try and acquire. I forget the exact detail, but I seem to remember another of the tells, was that the reps had some kind of 'line' at the top of the large indices. Either the gen or the rep (I can't remember which) had the line touching the indice, the other didn't... If anyone else who knows the watch better could chime in, it'd be helpfull I'd still like to get one for my overall collection, I think it's just a case of playing the 'waiting game' for one to appear on the bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrgod Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 It's an awesome watch for sure, and, before I went over to PAMs, one I really wanted to try and acquire. I forget the exact detail, but I seem to remember another of the tells, was that the reps had some kind of 'line' at the top of the large indices. Either the gen or the rep (I can't remember which) had the line touching the indice, the other didn't... If anyone else who knows the watch better could chime in, it'd be helpfull I'd still like to get one for my overall collection, I think it's just a case of playing the 'waiting game' for one to appear on the bay Yep, this is described in the eBay guide... Vintage Seamaster 300 fake vs gen guide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestripes Posted May 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Like many other models, reps of the SM300 are passed off on eBay as the gen all the time. These reps are easily available. UNLIKE other models, reps of the SM300 are not available to us, though it is obvious that they are being made. I could most definitely live with some of the flaws in the watch, as long as the beautiful case, dial, and acrylic crystal were there. However, I can't pay the gen price for the gen, much less for a rep. The big difference is: the gens that we want reps of but can't get (IWC Mark XVI comes to mind) is because they do not have rep counterparts, as good ones don't exist. The SM300 is widely known as the most "tampered with" watch on eBay, which means there are either complete reps, or many aftermarket parts that fit the bill, which I'm sure a rep manufacturer could work with to make a rep of the entire article. The reps exist--why can't someone source them at a non-gen price?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimster Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Sadly, VN fakes are all over eBay selling as gens to people that don't take the time to learn about them. I was at a NAWCC mart recently and one member had one for sale at $2,500, the 165.014 back. It had a gen 552 movement and everything else was rep. Read and it will help you: http://www.scubawatch.org/hallofshame.html He read the website and fessed up that he had paid 1,800 for it on the Bay. I saw a "Gen" Rolex Orange Hand that appeared gen until I checked the SN. No such number existed. Another sad dealer. Frankly, I just don't think there is a market for a rep of more than probably a couple of hundred SM 300's as the current really stand out by their mistakes. Jim Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt.watch.obsessive Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 I gather these fakes and the Blancpains are not made in China...hence we can't get them. It really makes me mad to see people paying upwards of two grand for that same fake BP that comes up every few weeks. Looks like a Precista case plus a custom dial. We have members who frequent the infamous German boards. Perhaps they know the source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casanile Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 You can check time to time DHgate, I saw some of these several times on it. This month they have some SEAMASTER COSMIC. http://image.dhgate.com/upload/200712/85/f...97614453055.jpg http://www.dhgate.com/p_ff80808116cc382301...638d1b1c12.html But be careful and if you pull the trigger, choose a power seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimster Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 He's back! The master of vintage reps. $99 on the street in Nam and look what a Blancpain is going for on his list of watches. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...ME:B:SS:US:1123 There are rumors the movements are copies as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casanile Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 There are rumors the movements are copies as well. I read several times that the watches are franken reps with genuine movements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takashi Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 That is at least a franken. Possibly that movement contains "localised" parts as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestripes Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I just looked at a "vintage watch" thread on a gen forum... it makes me want the SM300 so badly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMman Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I just looked at a "vintage watch" thread on a gen forum... it makes me want the SM300 so badly! I have a genuine used caseback to get you started. Get a Precista PRS14, add the gen caseback and source a dial and you're there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 bad news the presistas are all sold out for now. It may be worth asking time factors if they are going to be making more though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16a2 Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Apparently Eddie is working on making a few other watches at the moment, hopefully he will get round to making the 14 again at some point because it is a real beauty! I have read excellent things about his watches, top build quality that you would expect of Omega/Rolex etc... for a lot less! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerman Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 I too love the Precista but the price holds me back (especially in Aussie dollars). I still think it's your best option. The thing to remember is you really are getting a top quality dive watch here. I'm hoping it makes a come back when I can afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrarimen Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 thoughts on this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...hlink:middle:us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestripes Posted January 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 That's fine, but the price is out of my reach. God, I'd buy a rep of this for ~$200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmg Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 thoughts on this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...hlink:middle:us I'd say a fake! -the case looks brand new and holy cow that has to be superluminiova on the dial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimster Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Gen and a steal!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolexmaniac88 Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 does anyone know approximately what a vintage complete gen omega seamaster 300 would cost ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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