Guest carlsbadrolex Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 A friend just told me about this... Anyone else keeping up with this? DZHAVA, Georgia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shundi Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Yeah I saw this...I personally think with Putin still pulling the strings (and considering the comments he's made about America, the EU, etc) we'll be heading back to the 70's/ 80's in a decade or so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterfly777 Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Yeah I saw this...I personally think with Putin still pulling the strings (and considering the comments he's made about America, the EU, etc) we'll be heading back to the 70's/ 80's in a decade or so... All Russia is doing is protecting its borders from a hostile govt in Georgia and protecting the russian minority. The Georgians killed Russian Peacekeepers so for every action there is a reaction. What Georgians are getting now. Malodiats Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 I find it supprising how georgia can pick a fight with Russia and think it wont get a bloody nose, they may be a US ally but allthe states has right now are harsh words, even if it did have troops to deploy iut would be the most stupid deplyment yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Based on the looks on the faces of Putin and Bush as they were chatting before the Olympics ceremony began no one looked particularly perturbed. I think this one dies down. Although Russia is heading back to the way it was (nationalizing all businesses, consolidating power, etc.) from what I read it sounded like Georgia was the aggressor. But who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfreeman420 Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 I never liked Georgia. How can one state have so many Waffle Houses? I mean really there is one like every 100 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 All Russia is doing is protecting its borders from a hostile govt in Georgia and protecting the russian minority. The Georgians killed Russian Peacekeepers so for every action there is a reaction. What Georgians are getting now. Malodiats Putin. I think this is Georgias affair, isnt it? Russia does not want others to intervene when it comes to Chechnya but they do the same [censored]. They should just stay the f.... out of countries that do not belong to them. Soviet Union is long gone, those are sovereign states! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Based on the looks on the faces of Putin and Bush as they were chatting before the Olympics ceremony began no one looked particularly perturbed. I think this one dies down. Although Russia is heading back to the way it was (nationalizing all businesses, consolidating power, etc.) from what I read it sounded like Georgia was the aggressor. But who knows. This would be as if Alaska declares sovereignty and Canada helps them. Do you think amerika would just let Alaska go? DO you think Canada would have a right to give Canadian citizenship to all Alaskians? DO you think Canada has the right to attack the USA if the US sends troops to Alaska (and not to canada!) to claim its land back? I think not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Many of these eastern block countries believe that by simply getting in bed with the West, e.g. donating troops to an America-led coalition, etc, they'll be automatically protected by the US. But Russia knows that the US isn't going to step in and is sending a message to all the other countries in the region that he's boss and don't expect the US to get in a war to save them. Georgia has closer ties to the West and has sought NATO membership. Russia can prevent this by establishing a military presence there. Does Putin necessarily want to take the republics? I don't think so. But he has been quoted as saying the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 as i live pretty close it was on the news here like 10min after it happen. Russia aiint nobody you shoud fuc@ around whit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milsub5517 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 i must mention that this was a well planned event too. ..t he has been quoted as saying the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Conflict has been brewing in South Ossetia for years. This is an escalation but it was bound to happen - Saakashvili promised in his election campaign to take South Ossetia back. The only thing I find surprising is that anyone is surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 As much as I think the US should stay out, I think the same should apply to Georgia as well South Ossetia clearly broke away from Georgia, Georgia should respect that and let them go. The fact that they tried to sneak this attack in, while the world was focussing on the opening of the Olympic Games, shows that this was a planned act of aggression, and one which they had hoped would sneak under the world's 'political radar'. I think Russia is right to defend those who hold Russian citizenship/passports, and I would hope, that Bush's advisors can explain that to him. I only hope Bush stays the hell away, and doesn't let his itchy trigger finger drag us into World War Three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRasta Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 I could be wrong but it is my understanding that Georgia instigated the whole thing, but Russia is using a hammer (and a big one at that) to deal with a fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRasta Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 I never liked Georgia. How can one state have so many Waffle Houses? I mean really there is one like every 100 feet. Hey watch it, I live in Georgia! Now excuse me I'm off to the Waffle House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sul Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 All Russia is doing is protecting its borders from a hostile govt in Georgia and protecting the russian minority. The Georgians killed Russian Peacekeepers so for every action there is a reaction. What Georgians are getting now. Malodiats Putin. I am sry, but this is BIG BS! Russia business and interest is only naphta in Ossetia, probably Georgia is interested about that too. But Ossetia was( still is) part of Georgia. This is has to be between Ossetia and Georgia...but...as usually"BIG BROTHER" thinks that this is their problem Russia is BIG BS country and what they are doing in Georgia is BS , but as usually nothing new in this world. Dumat nada, ne br Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakemaster Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Hopefully they'll keep each other busy for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronoluvvv Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 i don't think the global majority cares as long as Russia keeps pumping out oil & natural gas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milsub5517 Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 (edited) georgia attacked south osetia using rocket system "GRAD" they pretty much destroyed the city and several nearby vilages. then georgian troops moved in and started a "clean up", no one was spared" kids, women, wounded. there are reports of tanks driving over people (kids too); people locked up in buildings and set on fire alive. they shoot at vehicles trying to evacuate wounded. this is a genocyde against osetians. georgia considers that that land belongs to them. Georgia recieved multi-million funding from USA to purchase weapons and ammunition. What ever is told on TV by western media is completely different from what is going on over there right now. I just got off the phone with my family members ... Edited August 11, 2008 by mil_sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 georgia attacked south osetia using rocket system "GRAD" they pretty much destroyed the city and several nearby vilages. then georgian troops moved in and started a "clean up", no one was spared" kids, women, wounded. there are reports of tanks driving over people (kids too); people locked up in buildings and set on fire alive. they shoot at vehicles trying to evacuate wounded. this is a genocyde against osetians. georgia considers that that land belongs to them. Georgia recieved multi-million funding from USA to purchase weapons and ammunition. What ever is told on TV by western media is completely different from what is going on over there right now. I just got off the phone with my family members ... And which secret FSB informant told you this....? Or have you been there yourself, undercover as a Georgian Spetsnaz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 And which secret FSB informant told you this....? Or have you been there yourself, undercover as a Georgian Spetsnaz? Russia would NEVER go into this whit no reason that is the only thing we should care about as we are not Georgians nor Russians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milsub5517 Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 speak for youself.. Russia would NEVER go into this whit no reason that is the only thing we should care about as we are not Georgians nor Russians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Russia would NEVER go into this whit no reason that is the only thing we should care about as we are not Georgians nor Russians. Yes, and Russia would NEVER EVER Risk only 1 crippled retard soldier just to help another countries citizens out of goodwill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 speak for youself.. was mainly speaking about slay and myself. i understand you have a connection to one of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milsub5517 Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 the same applies to every other country. there is always a political reason behind every goodwill gesture.. is this news to you??? Yes, and Russia would NEVER EVER Risk only 1 crippled retard soldier just to help another countries citizens out of goodwill! yes, russia. was mainly speaking about slay and myself. i understand you have a connection to one of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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