USMC8404 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Good morning all, I am having some remorse over an auction I won early this morning on ebay. Please take a look at the listing and tell me I am just being paranoid... All opinions are welcome. I know this sounds crazy but it only had one other bidder and sold for $3150 USD. Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=330281479000 Thanks guys, Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankmb Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Seems like an honest bloke. If he didn't put a reserve, then it's his loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltatahoe Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 based on his feedback, looks like he's sold several watches before with satisfied buyers; i think you probably got yourself a good deal keep us posted *crosses fingers* deltatahoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC8404 Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Seems like an honest bloke. If he didn't put a reserve, then it's his loss. Not only was there no reserve, the Buy Now was set at $3400. This is more in line with the price for the non date-versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC8404 Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 based on his feedback, looks like he's sold several watches before with satisfied buyers; i think you probably got yourself a good deal keep us posted *crosses fingers* deltatahoe I know what you mean. He has a long history of great feed back. May be I just got lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Looks like a very good price, especially w/ b&p's. This is about the best 'wholesale' price you're going to get unless you're doing a private deal. The pics of the watch look fine- T<25 dial, 93150 bracelet- all fine for a 96 model. I just paid $3250 for a 83 16800, probably in nowhere as good a shape as your 12 year old watch and thought it was a decent deal. I do figure a service when I'm buying used Rolexes like this- it's really a wholesale market on the bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Did you read the seller's footnote -- On Oct-29-08 at 19:35:04 PDT, seller added the following information: Footnote: I don't know why I didn't think of this before, but I just looked at the datestamp on the certificate: It's a mid 1997 model. 50/50 on this 1. Seller has good feedback, but nothing very recent & only a couple references to watches (kids watches, Swatches, reps????). Also, the lack of movement or clear close-ups would bother me. I think I would have requested the name of the TZ member he got the watch from so you could verify the story. Assuming the story checks out with a reliable TZ'r, I would have alot more confidence. But I guess you will find out soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carlsbadrolex Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I think you SCORED! Nice find, and make sure to post some pics when its on your wrist! T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC8404 Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Looks like a very good price, especially w/ b&p's. This is about the best 'wholesale' price you're going to get unless you're doing a private deal. The pics of the watch look fine- T<25 dial, 93150 bracelet- all fine for a 96 model. I just paid $3250 for a 83 16800, probably in nowhere as good a shape as your 12 year old watch and thought it was a decent deal. I do figure a service when I'm buying used Rolexes like this- it's really a wholesale market on the bay. Thanks, I am feeling a little better about it now. I guess a full service will cost around $500.00 or so? Not a bad deal all things considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjfesq Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I think you SCORED! Nice find, and make sure to post some pics when its on your wrist! T T are you back or just visiting? either way it is good to see a CBR post again! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anton Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Call me a skeptic. This seller is: 1) one who decides to list all his/her items private (therefore I don't know their history of selling) 2) has some selling experience, so selling a high-dollar item should warrant some detailed macro shots to express condition. If you are in the USA, then if I were you I'd take extra precautions for this transaction, especially an overseas one. Since he has papers and it appears that he just has the watch head in a picture, ask him to take a picture of the head and papers CLEARLY displaying serials on both. At least the hang-tag matches his story that the watch was owned since 1996. T serials mean 1996-half of 1997. Good thing PayPal now protects you for the full amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce79 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 The watch in the pic is gen...I just bought and sold a T serial sub last month...bought it for $3775 and sold it for $3500 2 weeks later because I really wanted a 16600 and didn't have patience...I took a hit but considering the state of the economy right now, I was just lucky to sell it. You got the lowest price you'll find a 16610 at and the tritium dialed subs are becoming harder to find. Although I would advise you secure proper shipping and be cautious what you have the seller put on the customs forms. Apparently it's against the law to import a Rolex watch into the US via shipping from a private party or 'grey' dealer...customs may confiscate it...if they do let it through, be prepared to pay a hefty duty on that beauty. The only legal way to bring a Rolex into the states is via an AD or on your wrist. I know it's not what you want to hear but it's best to know ahead of time. I sold my T serial to a guy in France and he insisted I state the value on the customs forms at $100 and had me ship the watch separate from the boxes/papers. He took full responsibility for any seizures/duties...but everything shipped fine and he had it on his wrist in less than a week. Here are some pics of my gen T serial 16610 when I had it: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC8404 Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Call me a skeptic. This seller is: 1) one who decides to list all his/her items private (therefore I don't know their history of selling) 2) has some selling experience, so selling a high-dollar item should warrant some detailed macro shots to express condition. If you are in the USA, then if I were you I'd take extra precautions for this transaction, especially an overseas one. Since he has papers and it appears that he just has the watch head in a picture, ask him to take a picture of the head and papers CLEARLY displaying serials on both. At least the hang-tag matches his story that the watch was owned since 1996. T serials mean 1996-half of 1997. Good thing PayPal now protects you for the full amount. My thoughts exactly! I asked for pics of between the lugs and papers. I do feel pretty good about it though. The guy probably needs the money more than the watch right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhitesox Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 There are a few of us in Australia that could take a look at it before he ships it to you. I'm personally not in Sydney but I know there are a few platinum supporters that could take a look before it ships to verify it. Looks like a great deal if it's all legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC8404 Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 There are a few of us in Australia that could take a look at it before he ships it to you. I'm personally not in Sydney but I know there are a few platinum supporters that could take a look before it ships to verify it. Looks like a great deal if it's all legit. Please PM me with info... Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchace Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Watch looks gen to me, had that same series sub in TT blue a while back, price is good for a private sale but I wouldn't necessarily say it was a short-sell, after shipping and service your back in grey market numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC8404 Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I think you SCORED! Nice find, and make sure to post some pics when its on your wrist! T What's up Leather neck?! Long time no see. Are you doing the Merc thing? I am on terminal leave right now, retiring in December. Send me a PM if you get the chance. I am looking at overseas opertunities... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I am skeptical as well. but best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 You got yourself a good deal, but I don't think it'll be too long before these models are (back) down around $3100-$3200. It wasn't THAT long ago when that was a fairly common price range on TZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC8404 Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 You got yourself a good deal, but I don't think it'll be too long before these models are (back) down around $3100-$3200. It wasn't THAT long ago when that was a fairly common price range on TZ. Agree. I was thinking about that today too. But as the economy recovers so will the prices. Buy low and sell high... May be this is just the tip of the iceberg? Might be some great deals on watches over the short term. I wonder if the price of reps will follow the down curve. We can all hope. Gens as an investment, reps for fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJT74 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Is it me or does the date mag look to far the the right? Is that normal for some of the subs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 But as the economy recovers so will the prices. Just don't mistake the short term irrational reactions to the Fed's bandaids as "recovery". We'll be in this mess for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC8404 Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Is it me or does the date mag look to far the the right? Is that normal for some of the subs? No, I am sure it is just the angle. look at the shadow to the right. I am ok with the deal. Win some loose some. Worst case I lost a little money. I'm not sweating it. I think all will be ok in the end. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC8404 Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Just don't mistake the short term irrational reactions to the Fed's bandaids as "recovery". We'll be in this mess for a long time. Just a matter of perspective my friend. My time horizon is twenty years out for full retirement. A lot can happen in twenty years. No big deal either way really. If I didn't like the watch, I should not have purchased it in the first place. But I do like it and I did purchase it. No undoing that now. GTG either way. Cheers mate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briank996 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 No worries dude, Paypal freezes the funds for 21 days or until you leave positive feedback. You could also go one step further and fund the PP purchase with a CC card, then you would have chargeback ability as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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