brian7836 Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 How do you open the back of a submariner rep. Is it difficult to get back on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Just buy a decent set of Bergeon with a 29,5mm dye that's all. Don't buy the cheap Chinese copies because they will damage your case back. Could be the case that you can open it up with a ball of tape but you will never be able to close it that it has some change of being water resistant. Antoher solution is hitting the search button on this forum Carpe Diem Cats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbchubb Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Yep... buy a decent caseopener like the Bergeon. Without proper tools, working on watches (much like anything else) can quickly turn into a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 I have read that you can save some $$ by buying the chinese rep Bergeon set and use the handle then you only need buy the gen Bergeon dye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshore Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 I have read that you can save some $$ by buying the chinese rep Bergeon set and use the handle then you only need buy the gen Bergeon dye. Agreed, all the other Chinese dies (dyes?sp?) line up OK, It is only the 29.5 (most used) that is s**t! So explore the cost of the 1 x 29.5, and a Chinese rep set, vs a gen Bergeon set. Offshore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Try a kitchen towel hook, the rubber stick on type, the cheap type you buy in a supermarket .There was a recent post with lots of pictures explaining how to do it but i cannot find it. I didn't believe it until i tried it and it worked a treat ST4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadtorrent Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Agreed, all the other Chinese dies (dyes?sp?) line up OK, It is only the 29.5 (most used) that is s**t! So explore the cost of the 1 x 29.5, and a Chinese rep set, vs a gen Bergeon set. Offshore I heeded the advice of members on this board in going for the cheap Chinese tool set, and getting a gen Bergeon 29.5mm die and I'm very happy with the combo. Mind you...the CN hands I bought were too thick for the Bergeon die to sit properly...but it rests on "top" well enough to get purchase. I could grind out the hand slots on the Bergeon die...but that would take time and effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefwiggum Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 My watchmaker, when trying to remove a caseback on a Panerai to release a hairspring, didn't have a caseback opener to fit. He was an authorised Rolex horologist, but says that he had to relinquish because he wasn't prepared to buy new tools for the new movements that are of late. Anyway, he says that he applied superglue to the back and a piece of wood as a turnkey and simply allowed it to dry and turned it off. I didn't get as far as asking him how he removed the hard residue, because I was too busy inspecting the sapphire for damage lol, but it was completely unmarked and he says that he tightened in the same way before cleaning up. There is absolutely no marks on the watch to indicate that he used this method, but he is in his late 50's early 60's very staid and without a discernable sense of humour, so I doubt he was winding (no pun intended) me up. Incidentally, what can be used to break down superglue residue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshore Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Incidentally, what can be used to break down superglue residue? Acetone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefwiggum Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 TY - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im2 Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 The best value for price is this: Buy a cheap steel set... And a genuine 29,5 Bergeon die... There you go.. i ve done it lots of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krayfish Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 I find an angle grinder or a sledge hammer tends to be quite effective! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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