scotty Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 I've been discussing a possible watch purchase with a dealer called Polo. For whatever reason, they sent me pics of a new movement they have lined up - claimed Swiss ETA 2836-2 with red wheels and Rolex logo. They asked me to get feedback from people on their views of the movement.....so this is like a favour. Here's what they sent me.... I'll pass on people's comments, unless you guys already know Polo, in which case you can probably best feedback directly. BTW - I'm not trying to promote this dealer in ANY way. I've never bought off them, and was simply in communication over items. I don't know why they asked me to get people's feedback on this movement so like I say - treat it like a favour, that's all. Cheers all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Interesting. It appears to be a 2836-2, but I would think it's a copy movement. You know ETA is not going to produce something like this and can't legally do so. Of course, I've never worried about the movement looking like a Rolex movement- I'm more concerned about the reliability of a movement in a rep. I wouldn't want to pay extra for something like this because I'm not out to deceive anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshore Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 2836-2 is a 25J movement, so there is some inconsistency in there somewhere! O/S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosnik Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 funny! Like a monkey get a movement alike. here the real thing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyberetta Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Looks nice, but our Rolex watches are closed caseback, so relibility is the real issue here. Did they add some jewels to the clone ETA movement or? We shall see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 This is the 3rd of 4th time in the past several years I have seen someone fit 'red' wheels onto a horsecart & try to call it a Mercedes...........or, in this case, a Rolex. As was already mentioned, Rolex does not use see-through casebacks & it seems to me that if you want a movement that looks like a gen, then you ought to go all the way & clone the gen movement - plates, bridges, wheels & all. Engraving a few Rolex-style words (using the wrong font) on ETA bridges does not strike me as progress of any kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smc Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Yup, they need to focus on the visible details, bring the prices down and stop wasting time and money on stuff like this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
involt Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 It seems to me that something similar already existed: http://www.pam111.com/images/productimages...850/W1804-8.jpg It isn't identical, but the principle remains the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestripes Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 The balance bridge is an obvious giveaway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethebest Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 This is the 3rd of 4th time in the past several years I have seen someone fit 'red' wheels onto a horsecart & try to call it a Mercedes...........or, in this case, a Rolex. As was already mentioned, Rolex does not use see-through casebacks & it seems to me that if you want a movement that looks like a gen, then you ought to go all the way & clone the gen movement - plates, bridges, wheels & all. Engraving a few Rolex-style words (using the wrong font) on ETA bridges does not strike me as progress of any kind. +1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted March 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Thanx all. I've already passed sumamries of these comments to the dealer here. Personally I'm no Rolex fan so this was just posted to get opinions. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceberg1459 Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 The balance bridge is an obvious giveaway. lol, the whole movt is obvious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carl Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Of course it's just a put up job. But we wouldn't here today discussing rep watches unless someone did the original put up job. Someone took a risk and trotted out something. Don't just write off stuff like this without realizing that someone is trying to raise the bar. Any of us here can pick this thing apart. We are pretty awesome as a watch board. My hope is that something constructive can come from things like this. Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Of course it's just a put up job. But we wouldn't here today discussing rep watches unless someone did the original put up job. Someone took a risk and trotted out something. Don't just write off stuff like this without realizing that someone is trying to raise the bar. Any of us here can pick this thing apart. We are pretty awesome as a watch board. My hope is that something constructive can come from things like this. Carl Thanks for that Carl. The thread was heading towards simply rubbishing the dealers effort. OK - Rolexes are closed case backs. But this was a dealer asking for feedback, towards improving their product. That's positive from their side, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Certainly, we appreciate their efforts for improvement. But what I personally would like is more effort to improve the outside appearance of the watch. All I really want in the inside is a dependable work horse. The important focus is on the outside of the case- what does the watch look like on the outside- case, dial, hands, etc. That and a good, dependable movement and you've got a great rep- open the case and all bets are off. No serious watch person will ever be fooled by this quasi-Rolex movement. And hopefully the majority of us aren't out to deceive anyone beyond basic appearances. I'm not out to scam anyone, but I enjoy reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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