tonio_fr Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Hello, I recently found the following dial. Here is the description of the previous owner. RARE 1970s Mens Tudor Oyster Prince Submariner Matt-Black Dial Description: Matt-black dial. White hour markers - please note markers are not luminous. Circa: 1970s Measurements: diameter 26 mm approx. Dial legs at 11 mins & 41 mins. Calibre: Unknown Overall Condition of Dial : Very good Notes: 100% Original Tudor. Not even sure it is not a fake... So what to do with this one. In which kind of case shoult it be installed ? what mvt & hand, etc.... Here it is: Thanks in advance for your help ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillerD Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) Wow, nice. Now all you need is a Tudor crown guard, and you can be on your way of making a Tudor Submariner. Or maybe it's more profitable to sell it to someone who actually has a Tudor Submariner and wants to swap out their dial. Edited May 27, 2009 by By-Tor No big deal but please don't quote pictures. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonio_fr Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Wow, nice. Now all you need is a Tudor crown guard, and you can be on your way of making a Tudor Submariner. Or maybe it's more profitable to sell it to someone who actually has a Tudor Submariner and wants to swap out their dial. do you know what kind of case could be use for this project ? I not a expert at all but I really like these tudor sub, so I would like to start collecting pieces... Thanks in advance for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillerD Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 do you know what kind of case could be use for this project ? I not a expert at all but I really like these tudor sub, so I would like to start collecting pieces... Thanks in advance for your help I thought Tudor Subs use the same parts as Rolex Subs since Rolex makes the Tudor parts. I don't know, I could be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonio_fr Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I thought Tudor Subs use the same parts as Rolex Subs since Rolex makes the Tudor parts. I don't know, I could be wrong though. I meant what kind of old style case chould be the best to start from ? One with lugholes at least but a also on with plexy vintage style. A mbk-rlx-5512 may be. Does it make sens . I am learning, knowing it will be a long road, but for sure here is the place place to have all the help and knowlege needed Waiting for all other advices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 If you are to do this it is of some importance that you know what you want with it yourself, how to do and have a plan how to get there....the asked questions might be part of that journey...the up side is that you are watch crazy enough to dream yourself this Tudor and I bet you will love it when it is completed and the quest for the perfect replica continues............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 This might fit in an MBW 5513/5512 case. Movement would be an old eta like a 2483, or possibly a 390 (which isn't an eta, as I recall). Time to start googling Tudor submariner! Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 You need an MBW case and an ETA 2784... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Now ubi truly knows what he is talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonio_fr Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 You need an MBW case and an ETA 2784... Could a ETA Movement Cal 2783 w/Date be uses also instead ? Can the dial be swap on a MBK and keeping the standard ETA mouvement waiting to find the right eta 2784 ? Thanks for sharing your knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 The dial needs a 278x movement to fit correctly. The dial feet are too big to fit a 2836/2846/2824/2892. You could always snip the dial feet off, but that solution is less than ideal, especially when it can be installed correctly with dial feet intact using the right movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonio_fr Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) The dial needs a 278x movement to fit correctly. The dial feet are too big to fit a 2836/2846/2824/2892. You could always snip the dial feet off, but that solution is less than ideal, especially when it can be installed correctly with dial feet intact using the right movement. I agree but do not know how difficult it is to source this kind of movement. Can you help me in my quest ? I must admit I felt in love with this tudor beauty... Edited May 27, 2009 by tonio_fr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavidoc Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 First of all, great find. Watcho sells good stuff and you got this for a great price. That dial is for a 9401. It will not work on a Tudor 390 or a 2483. You could use a 2784 if you so desired but the movement that that dial is normally paired with is the 2776 no date. That is the last dial variation for the 9401 and was discontinued when they issued the 76100. That late 9401 and 9411's used this dial at the same time that the transistion 76100 was being made. While it might seem strange, this dial came with both the snowflake hands as well as the lollipop (not mercedes) hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 2776 25j is absolutely correct for a 9401/0, however I made the recommendation for the 2784 as it's a little easier to source a la carte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddog Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 2776 25j is absolutely correct for a 9401/0, however I made the recommendation for the 2784 as it's a little easier to source a la carte. Here's a little hint in the search to finding a 2776 eta non date movement...... Octo lakemaster..... ;-) rgds Johnny b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polexpete Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 tonio, here's a link to a useful guide to vintage Tudor subs.... http://forumamontres.forumactif.com/revues...riner-t1013.htm Cheers P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonio_fr Posted May 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 tonio, here's a link to a useful guide to vintage Tudor subs.... http://forumamontres.forumactif.com/revues...riner-t1013.htm Cheers P. Thanks a lot. It sounds already quite difficult to find the appropiate movement. I'll have a look to this web site to see how difficult this project sounds before going further... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavidoc Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 If you decide to not pursue this endeavor, I will purchase the dial from you. I could put it to use with a real 9401. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 What ever happened to this build? E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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