redwatch Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Hi guys, I am just loving the snowflake tudors that keep popping up in review and in wrist shots. After completing my SMP Chrono rebuild, I now have the bug to take on something a little more serious. So with that being said, I would love to start the hunt for the parts needed for a Tudor Snowflake Sub (No Date). Can you help? I am relatively new to RWG, so I am not all that familiar yet as to where I can source the parts I will need. Movements I can find, but cases and dials seem to be a little bit harder. Any tips and direction would be superb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 I sincerely think you made the right choice for your next project It's difficult to answer your question in fact. It depends on how close you want it to be to the real deal and of course how much you want to spend One thing is sure: this place is the best one to source parts. Post a WTB and you'll get replies from members wanting to part with their parts. eBay isn't bad either or all the gen forums for dials in example. I would say that you should start with a good dial first, and the hands of course. That is how I build mine. But be aware: it took me over a year to finish it Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 A year is fine....or more. I am just looking forward to the journey of sourcing the parts and then building it. I think in the end, the finished product will have so much more meaning for me than a watch I purchase or trade for. That is the part that I am most looking forward to. Now I have taken my first baby steps towards my new journey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I agree with Stephane- Start with the two hardest parts to procure and then work your way down from there. That first step is the dial. A no-date 7016 or 9401/0 dial can be pretty tricky to find, as most available are usually the 7021 or 9411 date model dials. They're out there, but they don't come up often. Best thing to do is to just keep on a diligent search. The second step is to get the line on a nice set of hands. Sometimes you can get lucky and find a set of matched dial and hands sold as a package. Doesn't always happen that way, but in some cases it's possible. Once you have the dial and hands, you'll want to find a nice 2783/4 movement; for a no-date, you might also consider finding a 2461 or 2776 for the 7016 and 9401/0 respectively (as those are the correct calibers to use), however these are not always easy to procure in good working order. The 2783/4 with date removed works just as well and can be had at watch material houses like Ofrei for under $60. Next course of business is to address the case- In my experience, I've found that MBW cases work well. They're not the most ideal as these are based off of Sub rep cases for the 5513 and 1680 and lack the neat Tudor engraving on the caseback (along with correct sized wrench recess, incorrect engraving at 12:00 and 6:00). To me, it's a moot point; I don't really look at the backs of these things anyways, and so it doesn't matter. If you want yours to be 100% correct on the outside, you may want to go with a Phong case, albeit a bit more expensive. Once you have decided on a case, you'll need a T-19 crystal, good quality bezel insert (gen is best, in my opinion) and a gen crown and tube. If you are going with an MBW case, have the lugs drilled and CG's shaped for better results. Assemble and you're next focus should be on the bracelet. I wear mine on a gen mish-mash of 580 ends, 78360 links and a 93150 clasp. MBW offers a nice hollow link rep bracelet that works great, or you can go the route of the G10 like Lani So... That's my rough outline on how I would approach the project. Hope it helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlydog Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Red, Both Stephane and Ubi have given you very detailed and concise direction. The only thing I might add would be to look for an already modified MBK/MBW 5512 or 5513 in the sales forum. If you are lucky, this piece will already come with a lot of the modifications that Ubi explained. You will just need the Tudor dial and hands and you good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Fantastic suggestions guys! Thank you very much. I have been frantically searching around for dials, and I will continue to do so. Keeps me entertained in the morning as I have breakfast. And at lunch.....and at dinner......and watching TV........etc Let the hunt begin!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Yuki has this dial, but it has a hyphen in between Oyster Prince. From the pics of some gens they don't seem to have this. Is this a correct dial? It isn't listed as an aftermarket. Yuki states it as being used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Personally, I think you should stick with a gen dial... I'll let pictures explain why... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Some superb shots of an enviable model, ubi. @redwatch...go for it, and buy the best you can at this time. Knock yourself out, and have some fun with your project. After all, you can always upgrade the parts in the future. BTW I have bought hands from yuki, and their service was very reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Thanks for that Ubi. The pictures say it all!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 @red... You have PM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marble Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 I have the perfect base to start A snowFAKE, I wanted to start the same project. I have an aftermarket signed Tudor 9411 case, aftermarket tube, genuine rolex crown, genuine tritium dial. Pm me for details en scans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted June 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Hopefully getting the stuff from Marble, but in the meantime, I've got another dial coming to me soon. Once I conclude my deal with Marble, I will probably put the un-used dial up for sale here on RWG (or keep it for a second project - we'll see ) Here's some pics: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted June 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Ok now we are getting somewhere. Just found a GEN 2784 date movement in beautiful condition!!! The franken is under-way now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Hopefully getting the stuff from Marble, but in the meantime, I've got another dial coming to me soon. Once I conclude my deal with Marble, I will probably put the un-used dial up for sale here on RWG (or keep it for a second project - we'll see ) Here's some pics: How much might you be wanting for it? I haven't any cash at the moment, but I'd certainly be interested in the future when I have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted June 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Here's some pics of the gen Tudor 2784 movement. Currently being serviced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Here's some pics of the gen Tudor 2784 movement. Currently being serviced. Congrats RW! That is a great find! I have the feeling your watch is going to be stunning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 S- If the movement is being serviced at an RSC, you might want to see if they have a nice, brushed silver DW to throw on that movement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Here's some pics of the gen Tudor 2784 movement. Currently being serviced. I can see this being a fantastic watch Best of luck with the project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted June 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Ok, so this is what I have acquired so far (mostly everything is being shipped - so still waiting for its arrival). Gen Tudor Dial Gen Tudor 2784 movement Gen Rolex Crown Case stamped with correct markings for a 9411 Bezel & Insert (no pearl) Spring Bars Crystal with cyclops (not sure of the mag yet) So, I still need the hands and pearl for the insert. I have a nice black NATO strap to put this all on. Is there anything else that I will need for this? Do the cases require the use of a movement holder of any kind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted June 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Here are some case shots: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Looking good so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milsub5517 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 any idea where one can get a correct case for 9411 at realistic price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertieng Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Should the tropic be T116 or T127 to be used in 9411? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Here are some case shots: Very nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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