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@madasboot has been released into the wild again. Everyone look out! Lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hey fellas here is my Space Dweller that I just assembled this morning while trying to kick my jet lag lol let me know what you think.. aside from the hands that are far too white lol its a JMB v2 case with gen like serial and model engravings to place it in 1963 the year the Dweller was sold in Japan. Whoopy gloss dial ETA 2836

Ronin and Nanuq make some very good points! No doubt many Bonafide Vintage Watch Dealers will omit important details or outright lie about a watch they are selling...laser repair, movement and/or dial swap etc, etc. Otoh, the vast majority of RWG members did not lie about any watch they have sold or traded, genuine or replica. So...who are really the bad guys here? It might not be us. Nanuq: "We call them “rivet counters”, the people so obsessed with from-the-factory perfection that no detail is beneath mention." If it passes the 'rivet test' what's next? Do the Riv Ctrs want proof the vehicle still has the original oil in the crankcase? Probably, if they are as nutty as watchnuts. "Hey! are those rivets in your pocket or are you just glad to be here?" Ronin: "There comes a time when aftermarket parts are simply a necessity." Agree 100%. I have noticed ST and a few others have a whole line of high quality movement parts for rlx 15xx, 30xx, and 31xx movements. It was bound to happen since 'The Emperor' cut parts off and who can tell the difference anyway? "Hey! that stretchy oyster has a fake rivet in it!" It's all about the rivets. I have only one used vintage rlx watch that I know for sure is all original except it has an inscription on the back. I've had a few in the past but stopped asking. After all this, I am beginning to wonder if my JMB '1016' case is 100% original. He said it was.

+1000 hear, hear! Then let’s visit any of the UK’s sites for Series Land Rovers. We call them “rivet counters”, the people so obsessed with from-the-factory perfection that no detail is beneath mention. And guess how many of them have aftermarket galvanized chassis? They are widely accepted because it’s disclosed as a good thing. Meanwhile “perfect, unpolished” cases pass on TRF and VRF as genuine and original when the entire vintage community knows they’ve been laser welded and restored, and they all look the other way. Because the vintage heavyweights with more influence and money than God himself, have deemed them “genuine”. It’s all lies, stoking extremely overinflated egos. Nothing more. And at the end of the day, it’s just a bloody wristwatch.

Exactly. And for the icing on the cake take said case, give it one or two “polishings” consistent with servicing and I think you are more than in the clear. There comes a time when aftermarket parts are simply a necessity. Personally, I think there needs to be more encouragement and acceptance ‘with disclosure’ amongst Rolex purists. Live and let live. With openly sold ETA(or other) conversion kits when that 1030/1530 eventually dies. And vice versa. Water damaged dial, no sweat, here’s a redial. Just be open and honest about it. It’s just a watch. Don’t shun a guy for using a replacement case, bezel, etc. I would to see someone post on TRF or VRF an otherwise Genuine Rolex with B&P but powered by ETA because the 1030 died in 1985! 😝. They’d probably be banned.

"However, as it is with this hobby, do not expect the actual watch to be a mechanical marvel. Nearly everything I have purchased in the last two years has had some major mechanical flaw. This is not unique to any one dealer. QC is a joke. I would say one in five reps will arrive at your door, need nothing, and operate trouble free for more than a year. You basically need to be an amateur watch maker/repairer, or know someone who can service or fix the gremlins in these replicas. NOOB, ARF, an BP have terrible insides." That is the unvarnished truth if I ever saw it! If I could not hack around on/in these heirlooms, I would not be able to participate in this Esteemed Hobby of Royalty. ...and Knaves.

Two Quartz = Half a Gallon. Both were given to me free needing batts. Two batts and two straps later and they are Alive! Imho Seiko Kinetics are an answer to a question never asked. They are tough as nails though. Always liked the Cit-Eco Min-Reps, a classy design and the Campanola models are first class...imho. The Campanolas are hand assembled. Retro-Graph and Rep-O-Graph... Motor Time Drift Pro-Am 'retro-graph' with Seiko Mecha-quartz movement. Flat MG crystal swapped out for acrylic domed crystal to give it more 'retro'. Cushion shaped 42mm case, plastic crystal, black 22mm ZRC strap...a cool flashback to the 1970s. 'Rep-o-Graph' is from 10 or 12 years back with Seagull ST 19. Sooner or later, you'll realize a $50 watch and a $10,000 watch both do the same thing.