AMK000

There are others here that should be able to give some good feedback about the logic of what you're suggesting- you might be correct, and it might be verifiable without needing to get to the level of accusation on that basis.

On a broader level, and not specifically relevant to the OP's problem, but I have found that the vast majority of watches one purchases through the membership will come with undisclosed issues. I'm speaking purely objectively, and based only on the % of watches received that had issues that I believed the previous owner had been aware of and chosen not to mention it.

You are right mez , .... though on the other hand,

I listed a Patek Power reserve a month back and ended up selling it to a member of this forum of whom I will not name. I sent the watch to him and everthing seemed ok for a week. I then got a message back from him indicating that the watch was defective and had stopped running. I don't know what the proper etiquette is here when it comes to guarantees or returns for pre-owned watches but I felt it was the right thing to do by offering the member a full refund including shipping costs. I just got the watch back today and when I looked at it, the hand for the power reserve indicator was cranked all the way pointing just past the max 48hr marker. I want to really think that the watch was truely defective but is it possible that the member overwound it manually and broke something? I am no watchsmith or techie watch expert, but I would appreciate it if you veterans could chime in on your opinions. All I know is that i keep all my watches in exceptional condition and it was working fine when I shipped it out. According to the online tracking for shipping, the watch was in the hands of the member for 8 days before I received the complaint that it was defective. What do you guys think?

Did you packed well before sending ??? If yes then it is unlikely that damage was done during mailing.

Was the watch sold to a newbie ?? If yes then its likely the this person applied too much winding on the watch

I welcome the Spanish (and European) The Zigmeister.

Bienvenido Fran.

Classy

BTW ... how many watches you have Lanikai ??? :-)

I have mailed asking the dealer for a full refund plus postage fee (for this second one which will also go back).

Let's see what he says .....(dealer review to follow).

Dealer will fully refund .... though still with no watch

Rob ,

The best way to say thanks to all of us is to get well soon and re-do your life.

When you do that .... come back and tell us so.

Will be the greater satisfaction of all.

Get well my friend.

Well

There are 3717 by other makers. Like for SFSO and Big Bang there are different makers. Many members are not aware of this.

This makes things even more complicated.

There was a rumour that the QC on the new 3717's was bad and many of the new watches had problems.

Well.... I confirm this rumour

The first one I got had a crooked dial ..... it went back.

Today I received my 2nd one (replacement)

hxxp://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=threadt&frm_id=89&start=0&rid=0#msg3491091

.... hours of browsing

340 USD ?????

Sure its the price for three of them.

Congratulations from me too

You both look great and very happy.

@nasosn:

As Gorgi says (with his Greek spirit) ... reading the board will answer most of your questions.

Hint: Precious Time ships from UK.

PS: Remember: the unexamined life is indeed not worth living!

... you sure you are not Greek ???

Dust is the biggest problem on the rep rubber bands (all of them).

The only one (rep rubber band) that is dust repelling is the Hublot one.

Rep rubber bands for Breit , Pams , Chopard , etc.. all they attract duct.

I have also the genuine Breit rubber band and is miles awayt from the rep one.

Good choise.

Ran across this awhile back. Maybe old news to some, maybe a help to others.

It does get a few hits from me a day looking for a deal just listed.

http://www.elitedealseeker.com/index.cgi?c...ord=&ageupp

Nice find.

Great reading and pics.

I wish was there too

The DART WEIDER watch

@Admin and Mods:

Can we some how create a POTR "Raising fund account" , auctions apart ???

Some how I fell that we can raise more funds this way.

Food for thought.

Has anyone dealt with this "Apprentice Collector"?

No, but you will soon ???

Come on Du, somebody has to try first.

@POTR:

Guys I don't say this to put you off but honestly you will burn a lot of good money trying to find cheaper watches of the quality we are used to, unless you get real lucky.

The fact is there are a lot of these sellers that will only sell X amount in an order and you can end up with rubbish or nothing at all for your money.

Ken

I will agree to that.

Maybe some you have already noticed ... but may me some just only focused on the E21 site.

The "secret" is not the E21 site itself.

Have a look:

Guangzhou Guangdong ON-LINE

hxxp://www.ec21.com/ec-market/010608/Wristwatches.html?country_cd=CN

..... I din't compared prices ...but I will be

Why all the watches you show here are from watch-ebay ???

There are no examples from other dealers around ???

1:1 version is coming out in the next couple of months, I have it on good authority.

What , what , what ???....... automatic and 1:1 ???

What movement they will use ????

I will "cry" when I see it.

Many of us have dreamed about it in the past