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Why would we delete the thread ??!

Pretty sure it won't fit as it is too big

Oh I miss mine now !!!

As far as I know you can't just buy that jewel but I may have a spare balance

If there were a few "But there are a few that were IWC built, and came fully assembled by IWC." then they would be gen and i am sure there are more than a few, if it was built in the factory but not sold via the officail chanels then i would be assuming it was stolen by a worker in the factory, and having been there i doupt you would get away with it a FEW times.

Just to be sure can you show a picture of the jewel you mean i may have a spare

is it me or does the lume markers look fatter on that G series than the E series new rep??? May just be the G series as they moved the L Swiss Made L up for the that dial

I stand corrected that is quite effective!, would be difficult to do with non applied markers though

They dont bother me in the slightest, after all the biggest let down on this is the crown guard as it is more curved, but lets face it in the real world do you think people will notice this, Hell some people dont notice far bigger things so small bits like this wont bother me.

Whar strap have you got on the 89G??

You can't really

Well done. A step into the unknown is the first step of learning

It says in the description that it is aftermarket so at that price you are better off buying a rep with the bracelet and having the spare watch head.

Well you need to read back 7 years there a few of my reviews out there

I started writing this about 3 weeks ago and since then there has been an excellent review written by Polonus TM (http://www.rwgforum.net/topic/158136-h-factory-pam-089e-gmt-anthracite-review/) and another photo thread here (http://www.rwgforum.net/topic/158649-pam-089-from-andrew-some-pics/) By Ricardo L, I know I duplicate a bit of the information that has already been published but hey I have typed it out so there is no point in deleting it. The Panerai 089 was produced from 2001-2004 ( there is talk of 500 being produced in 2005, I have since read on one of the other threads about the 089) and still appears in the 2005 price list, it was produced in “limited numbers” of 3000 per year so there are up to 12500 gens (I don't think you will see one of these every day) in circulation and are selling used generally at above the 2005 sales price but I would not say that they have gained value particularly in comparison with some of the other Panerai limited editions. The watch is a Titanium 44mm Luminor case with solid case back. Running inside is the OPVIII movement, this is basically a 7750 with the chronometer parts removed and a GMT module added on top, If I take this apart I will show you all the GMT Module, if you think about it the 7750 is the perfect with the seconds at 9 matching the general appearance of most Panerai’s and the ability to run other functions such as the GMT, and also like all Panerai movements of the time It could simply be bought in without any development and then sold at the premium that this marque carries. The less said about the Brooklyn Bridge the better! Some of the Details of the Gen Model: Luminor GMT Titanium PAM089 or PAM00089 Production Years: 2001-2004 Movement: Calibre OP VIII Power Reserve: 42 hours Water Resistance: 300m Dial Color: Anthracite Bezel: Brushed Titanium Case: Brushed Titanium Caseback: Solid Crown Protector: Yes Crystal: 3.5mm Sapphire w/Magnifier Diameter: 44mm Strap/Bracelet: Leather Lug Width: 24mm Produced in D, E, F and G series (possibly H) The Rep is of a similar construction (more details below) made by the H Factory I am lead to believe, The movement is the A7750 with also a GMT Module. I see no reason why this could not be swapped out with a Swiss 7750 with the chrono parts removed and the GMT Parts added if you wanted to but the question is “Is it worth it?” While we are on the subject of worth let’s look at the prices when it was in production 2001-2002=$3500-$3700 (Depending on which price list you look at) 2002-2003=$4100 2003-2004=$4500 2004-2005=$5350 Used Gen prices from various sources in 2013, € 4,780 (= $ 6,233) Greece, $5477(Italy), $7950 USA, but to be honest there are not many for sale!!!! Rep Prices for the new A7750 $378 plus EU postage @$25=$403 GBP279=$424 at the time of ordering, from precious time, so it will cost you a little more from precious time but I have never heard of anyone having a bad experience from him, and if I remember rightly I got my first rep from him, He adds that extra bit of QC. So the rep from the H factory can be had for roughly 5% of the price of a used gen and about 8% of a new one in the last year of production, The question we have to ask is do we have 93% or more of the original watch???? Differences, well they have all been pointed out on the Polonus TM Thread so no point in really repeating that. As you can see below in the dial photos the gen sapphire Clear AR does work but you can see some reflections, and there does not appear to be any blue in it even on the Cyclops, I find the rep the same but do some times see an annoying reflection in the Cyclops as if the AR is scratched but I have inspected it at every angle and can’t find the reason. You can see that reflection here Dial and Date wheel. Without a Gen to compare it would be hard to say how close this is, all the photos of the gen all look different due to the anthracite brushed finish, with Black sub dial with concentric circles. The Gen dial certainly is alive at every angle, and so is the rep. Case and CG, The case is well finished with brushing as per the gen, the crown guard closes positivly and the pin is flush, I cant find a complaint here! Hands, Excellent and well made Lume, Top Notch in my opinion, visible all night, well applied and bright. Movement, now I cant find many gen photos of the OP VIII but it would not surprise me if they did come with the CDG finish at one point, but below is the Paneristi image of the OP VIII, with Panerai, Panerai engraving, the rep is decorated with CDG. Time keeping and power reserve, (my watch, not any other just because mine is running like this it does not mean yours will be) Out of the box (after 2 weeks almost in the mail from UK to Germany) it was running about plus 23 seconds a day, after a bit of regulation I got that down to + - 0 in dial up position but we will so how that pans out on the wrist. One thing I will say here is that there is quite a bit of slack in the gears on A7750s so it is wise to wind the time forward a little and then turn the hands back to the correct time to counter for the slack. Gen Rep Before regulation After regualtion Power reserve seems to be 36 hours plus. Water resistance out of the box, Vacuum test (dry) Passed Pressure test (wet, I checked the gaskets were there first but nothing else, but will say the case back could have been a little tighter) Passed 5 ATM without problems and I am sure it will do more. Strap, Very nice soft leather, hard to imagine that this is a rep after the crap you used to get a couple of years ago. Buckle, Again nicely executed thumbnail style buckle in titanium. Finish and feeling, Very good, no sharp edges, nicely finished and clean In Summary then, This is an excellent watch, no two ways about it, at this price on the high street I don't think I will get anything this quality, never mind such a good replication. It feels good, runs well, look awesome, and made from some quality materiel. I love the style, normal Panerai just became a bit basic for me but the Auto, GMT with date makes this a useful watch. My thanks go to Precious time (great if you are in the EU) ( http://ptswisswatch.com/ )for supplying this for me (don't worry I paid for it), It took a while to get to me but we can blame GLS for that not the seller. Disclaimer:- Just because mine is like this it does not mean that yours will be, that is the nature of the rep game, QC is not a science in the rep world, although it is getting better, treat it like sex for a 17 year old boy, awesome when you get it but it aint happening every date! If you want to get your watch wet then get it tested!!!!!!!!!!! If you want it to run well for a long time get it serviced! The rep game is just that, be prepared for long waits for the post and for the occasional disappointment, but sometimes just sometimes you really get 99% of the watch for 1% of the price!

Nice link Relaxman

Pm me your address and the width of the flip lock and I should have the part you need

It has arrived, It has been all round germany with GLS over the last 9 days since it got send from the UK Anyone here work with GLS????? Stunning watch though, a bit of a review to come in a couple of days

Still waiting. After all these years it is still a killer waiting for a new rep

Great answers Bobkat You can also try waccex for pilot strap good quality and great prices

The moderation team exist over many time zones and we do filter the sales forum as well as the rest of the forum

If it has broken were the flat part joins the bracelet you can get it micro welded at a jeweler with a good workshop

There are a few threads on this with files attached Try looking in my signature

Hmmm the Tudor thread make me think I have sold watches in the past and had lots of pms even to the point when i inform people it was sold that they have offered me more money than it sold for to sell it to them Being an mad of my word I have always followed the original agreed deal and never rescinded On the other side of the coin if you buy then you need to pay up ASAP or I inform the seller when you can pay and see if the seller is in agreement

Its design is exactly the same as the OP VIII, ok the rep bearing on the rotor may be a little louder buut no different than a swiss 7750 that needs a bit of lube. No one is going to say that it is a rep just because it is a bit louder.