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deltatahoe

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  1. hello all,

    first off, i want to apologize for the delay in getting this group buy going -- as i posted previously, things have been really busy for me lately, and i'm just now having some free time to sort out all the details related to setting up this group buy. below is the list of the current people who have contacted me with interest in participating in the group buy. i just sent a PM to each person on this list; if for some reason you did not get the PM or are interested in joining the group, let me know.

    1) archibald

    2) subzero1

    3) nebakanezzar

    4) vlydog

    5) dvn

    6) woody

    7) tutima

    once i have heard back from everyone (which will hopefully be in the next day or so), i will send the final order and funds to pugwash for him to buy the wheels and ship them to me. once i get the shipping amount from pugwash, i'll tally up the cost for each person and send out another PM with payment information.

    deltatahoe

  2. i think the moneybookers issues are more prevalent in the US for some reason.

    @chieftang, be warned re: using your credit card & moneybookers -- it is likely that you will be charged "cash advance" type fees in connection with transfering money to your account. when i tried to link a credit card to my moneybookers account, my credit card companies rejected the request out of hand.

    a quick plug for another (relatively) easy payment option: bank wire transfer. furthermore, washington mutual has free international bank wire transfers; i set up a small account just for those purposes (they have free checking with no minimum balance requirements).

    deltatahoe

  3. What is the problem? Am I missing something? Push a pin through the case lughole and there you go.

    now that i remember, my springbars were jammed in there funny (at an angle). and i recently got new end links where the holes don't match the lugholes just right, so i couldn't manage to get them on properly....

    which reminds me -- i need to follow up w/ the contact i had about new end links...,:g:

    deltatahoe

  4. I discussed this recently in another thread. You have to decide if you want to do this, and you assume all risks for attempting it if you do. My 6536 was doing that after I accidentally bashed it against something. So I held it by the bracelet, crystal down, and smacked it once into the palm of my other hand. That did it.

    Good luck!

    classic :lol:

    nanuq watchmaking school -- free of charge :victory:

    deltatahoe

  5. i think you've answered your own question. you'll get your watch.

    waiting on that first rep is one of the hardest things ever -- sending hundreds of dollars to china to someone you've never met for a replica watch is scary. :o

    but don't worry, it gets MUCH easier the second time :lol:

    btw, welcome to RWG :victory:

    deltatahoe

  6. HBB is much more expensive in chinese markets than many other reps. I have to agree that there seems to be some kind of "cartel"... probably some dealers got to be shareholders of a factory.. would bet for that :)

    If you search well, and have a few contacts, a "noobmariner" can be found there for about $60, and the HBB can be found fo about $230. Very big difference, but also in my opinion an abusive overcharging at some trusted dealers selling prices, when they don't even include shipping. In fact, theses dealers also charge a benefit for the shipping cost (!!!)

    now this is helpful information. so let's say you can get a noobmariner for $110 shipped. that is a 83% markup over your stated cost of $60. i paid $418 shipped for my HBB; that is a 81% markup over your stated cost. based on these numbers some fool could try to argue that you're actually getting a better deal on the HBB given it is a lower markup, but these numbers are skewed given shipping cost makes up a higher percentage of the total cost for the noobmariner.

    so let's say the actual shipping cost (i agree with you that some dealers are probably making a profit on their EMS shipping charge of $30) is $20. thus, for the $110 noobmariner, the actual cost to the dealer is $80, resulting in only 37.5% markup over cost. for the $418 HBB, assuming the same $20 shipping cost, the actual cost to the dealer is $250, resulting in a 67.2% markup over cost.

    if your information is correct (i have no reason to believe it is not) our collectors are making a significantly higher margin on the HBB than the noobmariner. is that a huge surprise? not really. i think anyone can surmise that ttk (or any other collector for that matter) can't be making too much on a $110 watch.

    however, i would be surprised if a new collector doesn't come along at some point and sell the HBB for a 37-45% markup over cost and make a nice profit doing so. in my mind, if these watches really are available to everyone at the markets, then the prices will drop -- it's inevitable. the bigger / real concern for me is the possibility that the maker is not allowing everyone to have access to the products, which allows the price inflation to occur.

    anyways, i've found this interesting -- thanks for posting about your experiences in the markets luisik.

    Reps are not the most important thing in the world, so i won't be for hours trying to convince anybody about anything.

    I just share the few things i know, please don't use them if you think they are completely useless for your life and let's be happy all of us ;)

    hopefully you don't have any hard feelings -- i appreciate your insight and opinions. :victory:

    regards,

    deltatahoe

  7. @slay, what's funny about your tirade is that i don't disagree with your theory about why other collectors don't have access to these watches. it's a pretty likely argument.

    my whole point was that i think luisik is full of sh!t in saying that he's seen the hublot big bang and breitling chronomat evolution reps for sale in the markets at the same prices as our other reps. if this were the case, some new collector would realize that they could make a nice profit by selling them to us at a price lower than the inflated prices of our existing collectors.

    and your point that what's going on with the prices on super reps is the same as idealwatches or bestswiss is an apples and oranges comparison -- those sites sell watches that can be freely bought on the markets for $100 or less for $1,000 or more. my point is that you can't buy these watches in the markets at deeply discounted prices -- they just aren't available. the factory that is making these watches probably finally realized -- hey, i'm the only source for these popular, well repped watches -- i can charge higher prices.

    the whole point of pugwash's thread that i linked to earlier is just that -- they CAN charge higher prices, and people will continue buy the watches.

    deltatahoe

  8. since 2005, i have been travelling because of job issues to China-Guangzhou twice a year, so i got to see by myself what are the real prices of what you are offered here, and I can assure you that from 8 months ago prices of our dealers here and there are not logical at all.

    Yes, I have seen ALL those super reps at hand by myself

    so you're saying that you've been to china in the last six months and found both the hublot big bang and breitling chronomat evolution reps? and you're saying that these particular reps were selling in the markets for the same prices as the other reps?

    many of our trusted collectors have said that even they cannot get access to some of these reps. and yet you're saying you have been in the market and have seen them selling these reps for the same prices as all of our other reps?

    i'm calling bullsh!t.

    deltatahoe

  9. What is the use of us in this forum then, when so many of our fellow members agree in paying $400 for the same quality reps ?

    like pugwash, i'm getting tired of everyone complaining about people buying expensive reps. first off, have you ever seen/held/worn a hublot big bang rep, or compared it to a genuine (which is a $8k+ watch)? or even a breitling chronomat evolution rep for that matter (which is less than $300 shipped from most dealers)? if not, i suggest you quit making claims about their supposed quality relative to some watch you bought back in april 2006 for $200.

    you are making sweeping generalizations, basically calling everyone who buys these watches fools. do you really want to be that guy?

    deltatahoe

  10. i think it's awesome that you posted this in the RWG support centre :lol: fyi, the RWG support centre is typically for site-related issues/matters (ie. slow server, functionality not working properly, etc).

    i think you're mostly right -- the thing that will really make a watch look funny is if the lugs (ie. where the strap meets the case) extend far beyond the side of your wrist (which would relate to the 34mm measurement in your example).

    every wrist is different though, which is why a 47mm pam might look OK on one person's 7 inch wrist (ie. someone who has wide, thin wrists), and ridiculous on another person with 7 inch wrists (ie. someone with round wrists).

    hope this helps! oh, and by the way, welcome to RWG :victory:

    deltatahoe

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