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i just saw your thread....i think a more specific title would probably help get more viewers / answers for your questions.....
i'll try to answer as many of your questions as i can....
If I opt to spend roughly $400 on the Swiss swan neck version, won't the movement still be obvious that it is a rep? Is having a swan neck really going to fool all those that wouldn't have been fooled otherwise? Or is this some mechanical marvel that makes the watch last a lifetime longer? Should I save myself the $125 and go with the asian movement?there are generally two types of people with regard to pam knowledge: i) no knowledge at all, ii) LOTS of knowledge (borderline obsessed -- this includes paneristi and rep hounds like us). whenever i show my friends my reps (who fall into camp #1), they are always amazed at the display caseback of the pams -- they wouldn't know a dagger swan neck from a rotor (all of my display caseback pams have standard 6497 asian movements w/ cortes du' whatever bridges). however, show the back of your watch to anyone who knows a lot about watches or pams (ie. paneristi), and they will immediately be able to tell that it isn't a genuine pam given the fit and finish of the movement, regardless of whether or not it has a swan neck.
i've never had any trouble with my asian 6497 handwind models; for pams, i've always chosen to spend my dollars on straps instead of swiss movements (you can read here for more about my experiences in collecting reps). some people feel better having a swiss movement, and that's understandable....everyone has different thoughts on rep collecting. i believe there has been a relatively elaborate discussion about your "are the swiss movements in pams really swiss?" question -- to be honest, given my philosophy of buying asian movements in pam reps and spending the difference on straps, i've pretty much totally ignored these discussions, so i can't help much there (if you're really curious and want to know, i'd try some creative searches in the panerai section to try to find these threads).
I would like lume that actually glows and a correct cannon pin without having to send the watch back out somewhere else for modding.unfortunately, if you don't want to to send your watch to be relumed, davidsen is really your only option. lots of people take issue with davidsen's fonts (they are generally not as accurate as standard reps from josh/trusty, etc) -- look at the pictures and see if it bothers you. you should also know that some of davidsen's watches have different cases compared to other reps -- i'm not sure whether this is the case on the 177h, etc.
Just so you know, there is no difference in terms of functionality with the replica swan neck. There is on the gen but for the reps it's just a visual thing.once again, i don't claim to be an expert on swiss movements in pam reps, but i am pretty sure there are versions of the swan neck regulator that do have a functional screw that will "regulate" the movement. you should be able to confirm this in old threads as well.
i hope this helps; i think you'll find the membership here to be helpful -- you clearly have done some meaningful research to pose the questions in your thread.
good luck with your decision; feel free to respond with any other questions you may have....
deltatahoe
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i may get lynched for saying this, but my guess is that they weren't moving the asian movement versions (despite the already material difference in price for the swiss) and therefore dropped the price and sold them in bulk to a discount dealer like ruby.
just a guess.
deltatahoe
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hello all,
i apologize for the delay in contacting everyone re: the group buy (i intended to do this at the end of last week) -- i had to unexpectedly head home for a funeral for a close family friend, on top of being absolutely buried at work.
i will try to gather together all of the information and send a PM to everyone here in the US tonight with details about the pre-order.
regards,
deltatahoe
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thanks for taking pictures with this strap rolli -- i like the look of the tan strap
i can't wait to get my 232
deltatahoe
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very interesting. do you know what kind of movement it has inside?
i'm guessing there are quite a few people here who would be interested in where you got it as well....
btw, welcome to RWG
as you can probably see we're all pretty watch crazed here
deltatahoe
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looking good
hang onto your wallet -- as you may suspect it's in for quite a ride
deltatahoe
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best of luck jfreeman
even though i just gamble occasionally, i've definintely begun thinking about gambling winnings in terms of watches since i've started collecting reps (ie. if i am ever up $340, i will stop and treat myself to a breitling steelfish superocean
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when will the madness stop?
deltatahoe
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glad to hear you're happy with it -- in the end that's all that matters
wear it well
deltatahoe
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cheers to flavor flav
he's a great resource to this board
glad to hear you got your problem worked out
deltatahoe
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1. The newer generation (I assume) with older 7750 - Do the date/day wheels line up? The pictures look great, just want to know if they do in the real world.
i have never heard that there are multiple "generations" of this watch -- i'm guessing they are all from the same factory...EL had access to these first (i believe it was a limited 100 piece run), and other got access to the watch later....
are there really versions available now with the OLD (21.6k bph) asian movement??
i have this watch from EL; it has awesome presence on the wrist, and looks great on the ss bracelet.
deltatahoe
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did someone say substitute pimp?
anyone recognize where this picture was taken (look closely)?
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Pilots chrono is a perfect stunner now!
Beautiful watches!
Cheers!
i was about to say the same thing. WOW. really stunning.
deltatahoe
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umm
i'm going to have to read this when i have time to actually pay attention. looks really interesting though.
deltatahoe
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it is definitely a funny hobby -- watches you never thought you would have liked end up growing on you as you see more pictures of them here, etc.
....and before you know it you have 8 pams
deltatahoe
btw, i highly recommend the iwc pilot's watch (3717) -- it's an awesome rep with lots of presence (hard to appreciate until you get it on your wrist).
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looking good laz!! there is nothing more fun than strategically building your collection.
what's next? maybe an IWC, or an omega uPO?
deltatahoe
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so true...great pic tt
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I say stick with good movements, buy reps for $100-$200 and have fun
not sure about others, but i've been having a blast with my $300-400 reps of $5-10k watches
but I think there is a point to be at least thought about when the reps are 25% the price of a nice used gen ($328/$1300). At least consider it.when the rep has a quality ETA movement and is barely discernable from the real thing, i just can't reasonably make myself spend an extra $1,000 just so i can rest easy knowing its a genuine breitling. in my mind, what is there really to worry about? we get better (and cheaper) aftermarket service from our collectors than lots of ADs.
just my $0.02,
deltatahoe
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looking good
some close up pics of the pearl would be great if you can manage to take them. where did you get the aftermarket insert with a good pearl?
deltatahoe
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TWA is US-based and used to be called LWA, but the L stood for his surname so he changed it to TWA so he could deal in reps as opposed to just the tools he was selling at first.
It's not Joe, if that's what you're asking.
thanks for the clarification pugwash
the whole "thumb" thing and archibald's comment kind of threw me for a loop.
deltatahoe
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Thumb....hmmmm....never heard of him.
interesting observation archibald....however, from the OP's description i was under the impression that this was a "dealer," not an individual selling one-off modded pieces...
any RWI folks know the background on this?
deltatahoe
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Looks awsome...may be my next buy. BTW, I don't know anything about this model--what is the lugs mod that needs to be done?
the lugs protrude out from the case a little too much on the rep (ie. they should wrap closer to the case). you can read more about the mod from rolli in this thread here....
deltatahoe
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well thought out post jumbie...i don't think you've offended anyone here.
however, i'm guessing very few people here have had many experiences with TWA (to be honest your post was the first time i had ever heard of such a seller), so you'll probably get fewer responses than over on RWI. who knows, maybe i'm wrong.
one thing i do know, pictures of the advertised product would be helpful....i think you'll find people here on RWG (particularly the PAM experts) are most helpful in pointing out the weak and strong points of a particular watch if that is the advice you're looking for....
deltatahoe
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Why is it lately that so many folks are coming here, asking for our input on a topic or subject that originated on the dark side, am I the only one that finds that strange?
i feel like this has happened a lot more lately too....kind of bizarre, especially for those of us who aren't members of RWI.
deltatahoe
Ruby's SFSO for 139 shipped... So we now know how much it was overpriced
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this is what i like to hear -- i've got the same combo in the works (just received the gen black rubber strap, black dial swiss version on the way)![:victory:](https://rwg.cc/datastore/emoticons/emoticons/default_victory.gif)
deltatahoe