Chronus

The tickets are 49 pounds (about US $75) in the crappy part of the ground, I refused to pay it when Liverpool played there in the Champions League this season, although some friends went. I don't actually dislike Chelsea... Mourinho has entertained me but recently with his "best team did not win" when they lost to Barcelona is the point I started getting tired of them. They are also boring to watch so if their game is on and there is something else to do (browsing RWG ) I'd rather do that. Can't ever imagine hating them more than man ure though!

Thanks, they were very quick as I was home for a quick lunch break but had eaten my sandwiches on the walk home!

In words for those that don't have speakers (like me), or those too lazy to download and listen! Officine: Off-ee-chee-neh Off - like switch off ee - like the letter "E" chee - as it is spelled, rhyming with fee neh - similar to militare (see below). Like in the spanish phrase "No Se" (I don't know) ... like the Se without the S and using a N. If you speak Greek it's like saying Yes (Ne) Panerai: Pan-Err-Eye Pan - like pots and pans Err - like "to err" (make an error) Eye - like what you see with Last part is the same pronunciation as the Italian TV channel Rai Uno (obviously without the Uno) or the Brasilian footballer Rai (younger brother of Brasilian great Socrates). Radiomir: Rad-ee-oh-meer Rad - like "that's totally rad" (does anyone actually say that?) ee - like the letter "E" Oh - like the letter "O" Meer - pronounced like the Mir space station or Meer from Ajax's former football stadium Van Meer. Luminor: Loom-in-ore Loom - as in Fruit of the Loom. In - like the word ... like "walk in to the room" Ore - like iron ore. Marina: Mar-ee-nah Mar - like in "marry" ee - like the letter "E" nah - like the british slang for "no" Militare: Mil-ee-tar-eh Mil - like saying "Half a mil" (as in million) ee - like the letter "E" tar - like the substance tar used in roads, or like the words star without the S eh - not as pronounced as the Canadian "Eh", more like in the spanish phrase "No Se" (I don't know) ... like the Se without the S. Hope that helps! And that I didn't get any of them wrong!

Been there, done that.

Yes I ordered one of the cheapie R*l*x from silix-watch but it's in with a PAM111 so I hope that gets through to the UK! Let me know how the Nautilus is, I want one of those.

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I got a R*l*x two tone serti on right now, but great watch you wearing today kruzer

Steven Gerrard would be just as good an alternative... I guess we're lucky it's not Drogba! And if you're a Chelsea fan I hope you're not a johnny-come-lately one, or one who threw away his old man ure shirt for a new Chelsea shirt!

If your avatar indicates you are a Chelsea fan, then that would explain it... money doesn't buy class - bring back the AP! But seriously, doesn't sound good... what did you order? Good luck getting it through ....

Nice watch.

Good point... a few people i know say they wouldnt pay more than $30-40 for a genuine Omega Seamaster and then say they know nothing about watches!

I'll be down for 3-4. Thanks.

MBW are supposed to be water-resistant... silix-prime website says theirs are water-resistant.

Slayer, if you *really* are off the Asian movements and want the ETA 7750, maybe you can ask a dealer if they can get you the watch without a movement. Then buy the ETA 7750 and put it in there, get a re-lume, etc and you've got what you're after! I'd suggest silix prime or watchmmx (i think they do cases) or even try looking on eBay.

Great, me and a friend are hot on these group buys, so we are clubbing together to get a few from Europelli. I will probably get the basketball one and the distressed lambskin (bomber jacket) one. I will also go for a sharkskin from Don. Will let you know how it goes.

Technically, his statement is correct, but he cannot repeat it after seeing yours... ok now I'm being pedantic, better go eat dinner.

Silix said the factories don't make the PAM GMTs with ETA 2893-2 movements any more, so get them while you still can!

There's also: http://www.strap-works.com/main.htm http://www.banda.com Also check out this strap info: http://www.paneristi.com/archives/strapking/index.html

No idea, but if you are after the PAM crowns then wait on Kruzer/Finepics version, they have modelled it after the genuine and should be getting samples any time soon. They are also getting virtually perfect cyclopses (6mm instead of a rep's 5mm with correct magnification) and possibly crown guards.

I look forward to that one. Actually, I think I asked one of the dealers (Joshua?) about the possibility of a genuine ETA 7750 in the IWC, or if it's possible to swap it, but was told that the case is not big enough... is this correct? I wonder if anyone has tried. And yes, new models tend to be more expensive when they first come out - just look at the PAM 187 with Asian chrono movement - USD$ 1000 ! Crazy! If it had a 7753 movement, as a new rep model, maybe some more would want it.... I think it's best to wait for the price to come down. At least for those of us who can't afford it (eg. me!) If they are using the Asian 7750 copy movement in the PAM187, I would be worried, as they would have to use a similar gear system to the ones seen in the Daytona to move at least one dial (12 o'clock to 3 o'clock). I'm not sure if the 6 o'clock dial is already the correct one there, but the 9 o'clock already has seconds there. The extra gearing puts an extra strain so I would expect the power reserve to also be lower.

On another note, I should be getting a silix Asian 7750 copy based IWC GST Chrono in titanium (as part of that group buy). I *think* it has a day/date facility and will let you know how well it performs.

Yep, I just checked, thanks for the info in any case.

I would think it would have similar problems transferring the ETA seconds to a subsidiary subdial. They should stick a rotor on the ETA Unitas 6497 instead and make it automatic but no date! No idea why the price is high on the chrono copy movement though, although reliability should be fine. If you are *really* bothered having an Asian copy movement (and after what happened with your Asian movement 1950 I can understand), you could always wait for the inevitable price drop and buy an ETA 7750 movement and put it in there. I would think they would be similar sizes but you should check that with someone who knows. If I were you, save the genuine ETA movement for a real chrono watch instead... just to get the sub seconds is a waste in my opinion.

Does the genuine Swiss ETA 7750 movement have date? I'm wondering if this is the case, what is the advantage of the 7753 over the 7750 in the PAM196 daylights? Just to have the same movement as the genuine ? I had thought that the main difference was that the 7753 was an additional date function... Ok I have checked on ofrei: http://www.ofrei.com/page240.html The difference is obviously the subdial positions Wonder why they don't make an Asian copy of this for and adapt it for the Daytona? Just thinking out loud... Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...........

I can't understand the language. How can I get this translated? How much is shipping to EU? It seems to say they use a Swiss 7750 (but I thought this movement doesnt handle date?). Also, the pictures look they are watchonpo's. And at about USD300 or so cheaper.