ajoesmith

Ive just realized that i didnt post this here on RWG, I only posted it on TRC a long time ago when i just started out as a noobie. If you havent already read it enjoy, its not up to the standard of Bytor or The Zigmeister but all the same its informative, i hope here we go... OK so im new around here but im just like you, IM CRAZY ABOUT WATCHES!!! Not just replica watches but all watches in general. I cant explain it but they just make me go ooohhhhh , ahhhhhhhh when im looking at them. Anyway, I have an Omega Speedmaster Moon watch black face with Venus Copy movement. I thought it was the dogs [censored] until I came to this forum. I realised that the watch had several flaws. One main flaw was the 6 oclock subdial. I knew that the spacing wasnt correct but thats something we just have to live with, however the 6 oclock subdial functioning as a '12 hour indicator'??? whats that all about??. I read The Zigmeisters review of the Venus movement and asked a few questions as to how you can 'freeze' or 'Kill' this, so as the 6 oclock subdial hand would point at the 12 oclock position and so look more like the original. The forum was really helpful and I got an answer in no time at all. One person suggested removing the 'intermediate wheel' and gluing the subdial gear another said just put a blob of glue on the hand and stick it in the 12 oclock position. Well after a few more reads and thinking about the difficulty of this job and decided to tackle it myself. NOTE: Im not a watchmaker nor do I have any experience in watchmaking. Its only a recent hobbie for me and so I really dont have any watch skills - YET!!. Due to this lack of experience I encountered several problems and what should have been a 30 min job turned into a 2 hour job!!!!. Having said that I completed the job to my satisfaction. OK so enough talking ill go through what i did if you want to try it yourself. First off youll need tools. I bought mine from Ebay, cheap and actually not bad in my opinion. Ok so first things first, I didnt take photos of opening the watch and removing the movement from the case and removing the crown/stem. This is all very straight forward. BUT please remember to WIND DOWN to watch so as to remove the tension on the mainspring. OK so the watch is now removed from the case and now its ready to remove the hands. Hands now removed. I used the presto hand remover. NOTE please be very careful as this tool can easily mark the dial!!!. Next its time to remove the dial. 2 screws on the side. I didnt unscrew completely, just enough to get the dial off. Ok now the dial side view with a nice plate showing what the subdials do. Remove this. In the above photo ive already removed the screws. Here we see the intermediate gear and the 6 oclock subdial gear. Next step, simply remove the intemediate gear, it will come off very easily. Next remove the 6 oclock sub dial gear. It will also come off very easily. Ok so both gears removed now we have to fix the 6 oclock sub dial in place. Someone recommended glue but I just didnt want to use glue on a watch so I opted for double sided tape. Safe, easy to use and no possibility of damaging the watch. I cut a small piece and stuck in over the 6 oclock sub dial hole. I also used my tweezers to punch a hole in the tape for the 6 oclock sub dial gear to fit in place. Now remove the top layer of the tape and put on the 6 oclock sub dial gear. I pressed quite hard at this point for about 2 mins as i wanted the gear to really stick. I then put another piece of double sided tape on top of the gear so as it would stick to the underside of the metal plate covering the dial. Ok now its time to reassemble!!!. The fun begins. The easiest part is now over. Put the dial plate back on and tighten the screws, 3 of them Now place the dial back on and dont forget to tighten the screws, 2 of them Now put the subdial hand back on and carefully align it at the 12 oclock position. I have a major problem when its comes to watches. I need everything to be perfect!!!!!. Heres a photo from my Loupe. I want this baby dead centered at the 12 oclock postion. Do the same for the rest of the subdial hands. Easy Ok next you need to put the hour hand back on. Now this is where my inexperience comes in!!!. The next photo shows the hour hand back in place but I pushed in right against the dial by mistake. ooops This was a pain in the ass to get off and I slightly marked the dial but just only slightly. thankfully it isnt that noticeable when i wear the watch. So put the hour hand back on using a hand press and then the minute hand, make sure they are correctly aligned. Finally put the chrono second hand on and align at the 12 oclock position. The chrono hand gave me some problems as I thought I had it on correctly but when I started the chrono and reset it, the chrono hand didnt reset to 12 oclock - It was slipping. I realised that I wasnt on correctly. When it was put on correctly it make a small clicking sound. Start, stop and reset no problems now. So put the movment back in the case. Dont FORGET to use the dust blower to remove any dust. Crown back in, scew on the back and your done. Hope you find this helpful. Its taken me a long time to do this. I would be a great help if other people who have carried out modifications could post them for the rest of us to see. Thanks and ENJOY

No probs Rob, enjoy whatever you are doing

Hey you forgot to mention me!!!!!. The Zigmeister gets his name in print and i dont??? I pointed you in the right direction as well Just kidding, glad you got it regulated to COSC standards. Its a great sense of achievemnt to do so Enjoy the watch Joe

No No No, listen to The Zigmeister the master, of course he's right. You should reset the chrono anwhere between 10 oclock position and 2 oclock position. Even better strat the chrono again and let it run to the 12 oclock position and then stop and reset, this way this is no (or very little) stress on the chrono second hand and so much less chance of the chrono second hand slipping. If you reset the chrono second hand, say from the 6 oclock position, then theres lots of stress on this hand when it flies back into the 12 oclock position and suddenly stops you can imagine the stress its under. If you want to avoid the chrono second hand from slipping, always RESET CLOSEST TO 12 OCLOCK Hopes this helps Thanks Joe

Im also in for 1 Thanks Mark

yes yes yes, you can count me in too, maybe for 2 or 3 or more

Yes Mark maybe for 1

as the title says PAM 196 Dial or PAM 250 Dial - Which do you think looks better? PAM 196 or PAM 250

DONT MOVE THE LEVER THAT YOU HAVE POINTED TO WITH THE BLUE ARROW!!!!! Move the other lever!!! by the way thanx for the eta stems

Hi Guys well as you may have heard i sold member 'nguyendd' a Rolex Daytona with secs at six and there seems to be a problem with the watch. All is working fine BUT the hour hand seems to be touching the seconds hand and stopping the watch. Its such an easy fix, however 'nguyendd' has never done any watch work before, I can fix this but since im in Japan and the Japanese customs are getting more and more strict esp. for rolex watches (I had 2 Rolexes confiscated and destroyed this year!!! ) it would be much safer and easier if an American Member could help both of us out. What im asking is that if a member who can uncase a watch and simply push the second down a little to clear the hour hand it would solve the problem. Is there anyone out there who is willing to help us??? Please??

well well well.... im back from my business trip, was actually in shanghai. Im still very busy but dont worry ill sort everything out with david, im a reputable member and all will be well Ill get online later and add more as im still busy Joe

count me in too!!!

Yeah i just missed out on flavour flav's, he was selling it about a week or 2 ago!!!! Hopefully someone has one that doesnt get a lot of wrist time

As the title says: Looking for the OLD STYLE OMEGA seamaster bond watch with pins in the bracelet Anyone want to sell due to no wrist time?? Thanks

Why is it crappy????????? poor font, poor printing??? Why???

Whats wrong with the face/Dial?? Please elaborate Thanks

Hi Does anybody have this watch http://perfect-clones.com/cart10016-tank-f...000-p-1089.html Due to the ETA shortage coming up im thinkng of getting this little beauty. itll be a keeper for sure. ive searched and all i can find is that people have bought the asian copy. anyone have this?? how is it?? any help is appreciated Thanks

@Chronus Invicta Japanese?? How dare you compare such [censored] quality and workmanship to the intuitive Japanese only joking!!! But no seriously japanese stuff is usually always top notch stuff just like German cars!!! Seiko watches are a great example of this especially the Grand Seiko range with Seiko in house movements. Beautiful but very expensive!!!! http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/gs/lineup/con...BGW007&m=22

oh and you too crystalcranium you been around longer than i have!!!! How about supporting the forum a little??

@Devedander Sounds like chronomat123 has learnt his lesson this time, he getting lots of stick from you and he has to pay a lot of $$$$ to fix arthurs watch. Now..... Since youve had so much input in this thread how about upgrading to RWG Supporter???

Hi Guys Does anyone know where i can find a Tudor Chronograph Dial??? Similar to this style http://www.minutemachines.com/watches/Tudor/Tudor.html and this http://www.uhren-miquel.de/shop_v2/pic-art...r1095833599.jpg Ive cheked on the Bay and the web but came up empty handed. Any help is appreciated Thanks

hmmmmm but the DW's are expensive ???

OK I was thinking of starting a little project, an expensive little one at that, the vintage daytona 6263/6265 etc with Valjoux 72 movement, correct case with assymetric pushers etc.... BUT Is it really worth it?? The Venus 175 copy Daytona is a great watch with a great movement OK here are the differences ive noticed about the venus 175 Daytona 1 - Doesnt have assymetric pushers 2 - 12 hour counter of chrono doesnt function as 12 hour stopwatch, however can be frozen easily for asthetic purposes 3 - ????? If these are he only differences then ill be going for the Venus 175 copy NOT the VJ 72 If anyone has any other thoughts or knows any more differences then please tell me. Also sorry if this has been covered before Thanks Joe

Hi I have exactly what you need a PAM 28 case back tried to PM you but it said your message box is full Let me know Thanks Joe

sorry but dont have a Barney Magoo (Clue) as im half asleep, ts 2.30am!!!