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I think that 298 price means all the AP sec @12 fans are getting reamed...but we all know that price fixing had inflated the AP ROO line by at least 100. The PO chrono is a must have in my collection if the movement proves to be decent

Quartz hands sizes are normally completely different than those for ETA based movements. Realistically, I think the only mod possible are getting gen hands and adding superlume. AR can be added to give your watch that wow factor. A gen dial will not work since the date window is a bit off on the rep and a gen or like movement adds a host of more problems (as well as cost).

how much did the dealers want?

I've move one step closer to this project as well. I managed to score a gen dial. I have the movement already. I only need a properly drilled case and perhaps hands Or if I can find a blue tachymeter bezel ring, I'd stick this dial in a sec at 12 and have a semi-vintage APROO. -bosk

A Ti case is already out...I've seen the ceramic bezel on a quartz version...the movement has been around for over 6 months...they just need to put the watch together.

So only one of the holes is used? I think I've seen this gen strap fitted on a SMP rep (non-chrono) so the normal holes that fit the bracelet should work. the strap does not "flip out" once on the wrist? I know the Rep PO straps flip out on the SMP case. My corum uses two pins per side for this reason.

Definitely a nice review. the PO orange/black chronos get little respect too for the same reason of subdia spacing. Since the 12, 9, 6 chrono is almost perfect, I've hesitated in buying this one as well.

well King would have it too. I hope it comes with a real ceramic bezel.

Wow....really nice...I was thinking of reluming mine but did not want screw up one of my favorite watches. I'm going to have to reconsider now. What happened to those screws on the bezel? -bosk

All I can say is that the dude's Audemars collection is lacking And his Omega collection is missing a PO. Treasure trove of gen pics tho....nice find!

Once I get it to the consistency I want, I start luming. Yes, it will dry out in a few hours unless the dilutor or solvent is added. Perhaps the few hours is a secret the luming masters are holding back but it is not what I do

The sec at 12 can be had for less...I got mine from silix for 480 shipped. Look around at other dealers, but there may some sacrafice for customer service.

Here's the deal...the two watches have complete different movements. The sec at 12 is a modified A7750 and the gen is an ETA based or Jaeger LeCoultre automatic with a Dubois chronograph module popped in (the new AP's have their own in house movements now). The gen's date window is set very deep in the watch compared to the date position of the A7750 so you will never get the same mag look. There are frankens out there around $3000-4000 if you want the same exact look. We've learned that the current sec at 12 is probably the closest we are going to get for AP ROO's. AP ROO's are not nearly as bad as the sec at 6 movements....mine is running fine and so they majority of those on this forum, i believe.

I'd say those Sarpaneva watches are cool (on page 2).

That is unfortunate to learn....that watch was definitely on my gen list.

I decided to build another one of these. Ti Case was from MilitaryTime over at PMWF...its actually a decent case with sapphire. Complete watches can be had for $70 with $24 upgrade to a lightly AR'd sapphire crystal. The Ti case is a bit more than the prices I just mentioned. Movement is from an Android skeleton with a unique sec hand (gear wheel) and I believe dark blue anodized parts. Bottom of my crown guard got scratched as I was filing down the feet to result in a more tight closed lever I'm not completely happy with hands but was too lazy to do anything else Here are the quick pics:

Great pics and an awesome project...but some1 needs to source a proper sapphire crystal for such a nice watch...the majority of us have mineral on our 212's.

I agree...or the blue dial...I have the black. I'm about to upgrade mine with Chief DAR and super lumed the hands and dial. One compalint is the bracelet for small wrists...I've mod mine by filing the edges of the two links at each segment under the bracelet....giving the bracelet more flex at each link.

yeah ...I'd say the jumbo has one of the best looking dials of the AP reps...and is unique among the non ROO reps.

Getting a dial is going to be fairly hard....unless some1 here is willing to swap colors with you. What color are u looking for? or contact bk or wm9 since wm9 also sells the same jumbo watch.

Definitely no metal rings on the gen...Kings version with all black text does not have the metal rings although it has a strange "step" or something at the subdials...go figure.... Pics of Josh's dial color seems off compared to gen...perhaps this is a lighting artifact. gen: Josh new version: King version:

fed law require that the house be in a livable state so u may have to sink more money in it after purchase. houses are being sold for 5K but buyers sometimes have to sink in another 20-50K to make the house "livable" following inspections.

Got mine from King too and Josh carries it too. It comes in two versions...black or white date wheel. It is highly inaccurate to the gen but in terms of watch design, it looks great. Gen is a Royal Oak chrono with sec at 6 in Ti...~40mm...as opposed to the ROO case in SS with sec at 9 used for the rep...42mm. The rep is just a nice quality beautiful watch (not the rep strap tho...although oracle straps fit fine). The gen has the white datewheel, BTW.

Choices for my next DAR coating are a MBW AP jumbo, MBW AP ROO themes, or MBW AP EOD. which of these would u guys get DAR'd? I don't want to deal with the screws of my sec at 12 AP ROO (which has a white dial)....so leaving this one alone for now. Considering gens are not coated and the AP crystals are very flat to begin with, DAR is not really needed but it does make the dial POP. My AP RO chrono Paris is DAR'd. Also getting DAR'd with this run are maybe 2 nice flat omega SMP crystals (no coke-bottle effect) or a PAM crystal...I have maybe 3 slots in the next run...possibly 2. -bosk

just your typical 21J chinese auto movement. Other than the strap, it looks decent to me too.