freddy333

As long as there actually is an ETA (or a properly tuned Asian movement running at 28.8k bps) beating inside the case, it looks like you got a good deal. Wear & enjoy it.

The perfect name for a real beauty - The 'Black Widow' Sub

Broke out the Daytona beater today

Only a girly-man would let others keep him from wearing whatever he wants to wear. Get the Explorer -- it looks great on your (or any) wrist. Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong. Period.

Those were exactly my feelings as well & I remain mostly unmoved by the overall design. But this rep's build & finish quality is so good (especially the execution of the 'ceramic' bezel) that I felt it was better to ride the crest of the buying wave now than to let it pass me by & end up reading about another legendary rep that I 'could have had if I had only.........' I think the GMTIIC has a bit too much polish (like most modern Rolexes) to be useful as a daily wearer or beater replacement. But, curiously, I find it a very easy watch to wear since it looks alot like my beater.

Still Thursday night here & I wore this to dinner

It really is not a big issue since so few people will know anything about hand stacks or whether yours is right or wrong, & even fewer will ever get close enough to your watch to check it either way. But it is 1 of those little details that ices the cake & you know how neurotic watch collectors are.

Just noticed it. The factory obviously used the same (uneven) press to fit all the crystals. But this is something you also see on gen watches, so I would not let it bother you.

Definitely something not right there. I am on my way out the door, so I have to keep this short, but on chs models the hour hand should 'jump' in steps between each of the hour index markers. Neither the minute hand nor the GMT hand should move during this setting. When setting the time at the 2nd stop of the stem, all 3 of the hands should move -- GMT, hour & minute.

Most parts houses sell gasket sets for Rolex. Try ofrei.com, julesborel.com or cousinsuk.com. The Triplock comes with 4 gaskets - 1 goes inside the crown, 1 goes around the outside of the tube & the remaining 2 go inside the end of the tube that comes into contact with the inside of the crown (they sit next to each other just inside the outer lip of the tube).

If all else fails, spray a liberal coat of WD40 (penetrating oil) & let it sit for 5 minutes. The caseback should then come off with a caseback opener.

All of the posted problems relate to the syncing of the GMT hand & it appears to be occurring with similar regularity on both the chs & ihs models. For the record, I purchased the Swiss ETA chs version. As I mentioned elsewhere, the movement looks & tests like a standard Swiss-issue ETA.

Nice. En route to dinner with friends Chatting after dinner over coffee (mind the crumbs)

From what I see so far, the 'sync' problems seem to be both temporary (fixable by the owner) & afflicting all versions of the GMT regardless of whether they are chs or ihs. But after Ziggy has overhauled 1 of the chs versions I think we will be better able to pinpoint those problems that are specific to the chs movements from those that relate to either the general GMT functions of either movement or those typical problems that plague most surplus (unserviced) ETA and/or Asian movements.

I keep reading posts suggesting alot of problems with the correct hand stack movement in the new GMTIIC, but I have yet to read an account of a single owner who had to return his/her watch for repair/replacement. Although I do not fiddle with the GMT functions, my watch has been running fine & keeping good time since I received it. If you have had to return your chs GMTIIC for repairs, would you describe the nature of the problem & what the seller agreed to do about it. CERAMIC MODEL ONLY PLEASE

Thanks for posting the pics. Interesting, but not my cup of tea.

The only reps I have seen, so far, of the DSSD look like the 1 that Mark is selling, which is crap From Mark's description POS Asian movement, incorrect case dimensions, too-small CGs (never thought I would be saying that about a rep), fake-looking dial (with the old depth rating), etc., etc. I am sure the factories have or are near to releasing a much better version. Hopefully, it will be made to the same standards of quality/accuracy as the new GMTIIC & will be available with a gen ETA movement, but time will tell. Here is the gen for comparison

TWS -- Thanks, but US ADs do not stock or sell Rolex parts 'over the counter'. They refer you (me) to Rolex, which does not sell parts (to retail customers) in the US either. I have had the screws on back-order from Jules Borel for over 2 months & I was told yesterday that it will be at least another few weeks & they cannot guarantee that. Like you, patience is not my strongest point either, so I am trying other options.

Ofrei's dot (pearl) is better suited to vintage inserts (without the metal surround) where it more nearly matches the original vintage Rolex pearl & stands proud of the insert plane

With nose to grindstone

I have seen or owned a number of really nice reps over the years, some truly amazing in their detail or replication of a complicated design/feature. But using my definition of super rep (a rep which, out-of-the-box, is nearly indistinguishable from the gen & goes beyond merely matching a gen's appearance/features, actually providing a glimpse into that elusive tactile experience of handling a genuine high quality luxury watch), there is only 1 replica watch which merits the title of Super Rep............. The (Correct Hand Stack) Rolex 116710LN GMT-Master II Ceramic While not perfect by any means (the date font is inaccurate, the index markers not quite as wide as the gen's, the rehaut etching is not quite as precise, the bezel intermittently resets .5mm off from its proper null position, etc.), but its minor sins err more on the side of omission than commission & they are truly overshadowed by the watch's resplendent grandeur. A classic. A legend. A true Super Rep.

I think you lost me........ The top picture (the 1 with shoes) is my chs rep. And I really do not see any difference in the space between the inside edge of the bezel & the crystal between the gen & rep. Can you be more specific or do you have closeup pics of both that show what you are seeing?

Hand stack refers to the order in which the hands -- hour, GMT, minute, second -- are installed. In the case of the gen GMTII, the lowermost hand is the hour hand, followed by the GMT or 24-hour hand, followed by the minute & second hands, respectively A correct hand stack (chs) rep would have its hands ordered the same as the gen. The incorrect hand stack (ihs) GMTII has the GMT & hour hands reversed.

Thanks. Mine averages about +12 on the timer, but that translates to about -2 or -3 on my wrist, which is within COSC standards & quite acceptable for a rep that I have done nothing with beyond the initial 40 winds to get it going In spite of its relatively minor flaws (san serif (incorrect) date font, slightly narrow index markers, etc.), I continue to be mesmerized by this watch. And that is saying alot since I am not generally fond of modern watches. As you can see, the output is relatively consistent (pretty good for an unserviced ETA) with nearly 0 beat error (the evenness of the balance's rotation in each direction) & a good, strong amplitude (the degree of rotation of the balance). All in all, quite respectable.