freddy333

The last set of (used 703s, but very good condition) Triplocks I bought on the bay cost $120 for a baker's dozen (13 crowns). I do not remember the seller's name, but he pops up from time to time with similar deals. He has a history of over 2,000 sales of watch related items. And before anyone asks, they have all either been used in watches or parted out. I do not have any extras at this time. Sorry.

A Patek-a-day makes the meetings ok

So then I guess you will not be needed another one........ And, anyhow, I thought we were finally rid of the likes of you once and for all. Seriously, RG, you are one of the pillars of this community & I hope the 'break' will bring you back to your senses and allow you to renew your energy stores for the future battles with watches (& nit-wits) to come. A safe & happy one to you and yours. D

The caseback is probably coming into contact with either the pusher assembly or the arm that controls the lower pusher. To verify, remove the movement from the case and be sure the chrono is OFF. The hour subdial hand should then be fine. If it is, then reinstall the movement into the case without the caseback & see how it is then. If it stays put, then the problem is the caseback coming into contact with the sides of the movement and either you installed the caseback too tightly (if you are using a caseback press/wrench, just make it snug, do not tighten it with the tool) or you will need to file or dremel the caseback a bit at the point of contact. Be careful not to damage the caseback threads, or you will have trouble reassembling the caseback. If the hour sub dial starts moving with the caseback removed, then either the lower pusher is pressing on the pusher lever when the pusher is off or the movement is not sitting in the case properly. Any or all of the above have been problems that I have found with these cases. There seems to be a bit of inconsistency of painting techniques used on the chrono hands on the gens. The center chrono seconds hand is usually (though not always) painted a contrasting color to the background color of the dial. If the background color of the dial is black, the chrono seconds is usually white. Sometimes, only the tip is painted & the rest of the hand is left unpainted. And then there are those very rare red-painted center chrono seconds hands.........but best not open that can of worms here. Remember, these things require ALOT of patience -- even the fully-assembled units (which share the same case components with the V72 kits) can make a grown man cry.

The large, centrally-located second hand is part of the chrono and should only start moving when the top (start/stop) pusher is pressed. Press the (top) pusher to stop the chrono second hand. Once the chrono is stopped, the bottom pusher resets all 3 chrono hands (the large centrally-located seconds hand & the minute & hour totalizer subdials at 3 & 6, respectively). Between the 2 dials, I think the 7750 is the more accurate, color wise. The subdial placement is obviously more accurate on the V72 dial, but, overall, I think the 7750 dial is the better of the 2. The loose pusher is a known problem with some of these cases. I had to replace the pushers in 1 of my DW cases with Ofrei's pushers, which are slightly larger (the portion of the pusher body that screws into the case) and better built. The stuck pusher could be due to the pusher being misaligned or the chrono gears being out of alignment. It could also be due to the fact that the chrono is in operation. Press the top pusher and be sure the center chrono seconds hand has stopped, then press the bottom pusher, which should reset all of the chrono hands back to their null (12 o'clock) position. _________ UPDATE -- I just noticed that the "A"s in DAYTONA on the 7750 dial are wrong (too pointy), which is a bit odd since the factory got them correct on my 7750's 6263 dial

No, I need alot of mass. I want to sink the White House

Hell yeah, get them in the mail asap.

And to answer the next likely question, the tracking info will probably remain at its current status until the day (or day before) the watch arrives on your doorstep. Apparently, incoming tracking of packages from some countries does not update in real time in the US.

Did anyone notice that the watch is backward? For an extra mil, I should probably shoot the photographer too (if I can find him)

Deal. Please send them to: 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Washington, DC 20500 Attn: Barney

I Will Shoot This Watch

Link is not working. Can you post the auction number?

I suppose these watches could be repaints, but I doubt it

Based on the pictures, seller's asking price & overall story, my gut tells me there is something amiss here (you can buy rep or gen Rolex boxes & paperwork all over the web these days, so showing those in the mediocre pictures does not move me). To paraphrase Alligoat -- buy the seller before you buy the watch. If the seller has a long history of successful high end watch sales in similar or higher price ranges, that would give me more confidence. If not, then I would follow Alligoat's recommendation of basing the sale on the seller's willingness to have the watch authenticated by a knowledgeable & experienced (in Rolex watches) third party.

The watch is owned by one of the more senior & well respected TZ members and there is a good deal of documentation indicating that the Rolex factory had themselves repainted the red on top of white lettering on some of the DRSD dials. I think there is even a blurb about this on doubleredseadweller somewhere. But, to me, it looks as gen as anything can possibly look when viewed on a computer monitor.

Great pic, Nanuq. Gen (on left) vs MBW (on right).

I am not especially fond of the strap (I prefer an Oyster bracelet), but the owner of one of the most beautiful gen Double Reds just posted this shot on TZ & the image is so striking that I thought the members might appreciate seeing it here. This is a prime example of what a gen Double Red should look like & it provides a good benchmark to compare your rep or franken against since the MBW Double Red was probably based on this version I do not have a pic of a stock MBW in a similar pose, but here is an older pic of my modded MBW for comparison The 3 most obvious inaccuracies on the MBW dial are the pointy 'A' fonts & the color and spacing of SEA-DWELLER (strangely, the color of the screen font I just selected to display the words 'SEA-DWELLER' looks more like the gen than the MBW does). As you can see, the tracking is tighter on the gen font and the color contrasts considerably better against the dial's (faded) black background. I have often heard the red color used on Double Reds and Red Subs referred to as being very dark, nearly the color of blood. But I think the MBW more closely fits that color description than the gen does. The gen's brighter, almost orangey. Anyway, if the factory could improve just those 3 details (without screwing something else on the dial up), I think that would be a significant step forward. And by the sullen look on his face, it appears that Groucho came to the same conclusion......if only...........

Golfman - Nice Steinhart. Love the case & tools. It even has my number (333). For me, serious work requires a serious watch

All vintage gen Daytonas (prior to the 16520 release in the late 1980s) were powered by the Valjoux 72 base movement. The pushers on these movements were spaced unevenly (asymmetrically) from the centered crown. This picture illustrates the difference

Actually, all things considered, it was the best (of 3) watch GTG I have attended. Even though we both arrived a bit late & this particular bar/restaurant was not the best environment in which to talk (or be heard) & see watches, we were fortunate to have been able to get a nice table with plenty of room to spread out, even if most of the room went unused since it was only the two of us. It would have helped had the GTG notice been able to be posted here earlier, as I had only been made aware of the pending GTG a couple days prior to the event & after having already made previous plans. Otherwise, I would have arrived earlier & better equipped. As it was, I only had time to grab a couple watches. The mall where the GTG was staged is probably a good place for a future GTG since it is very accessible, has a good variety of nice restaurants (any of which would be great meeting places), plenty of free parking & tends not to be very busy (even during a pre-Xmas weekend, the mall was only sparsely inhabited with holiday shoppers). One correction I would make to DuDro's otherwise excellent meeting recollective is that the Newman I brought along was a model 6241, not 6262 (watch on right) And as I mentioned elsewhere, the GTG is good for allowing collectors (I mean those who collect as opposed to those who sell) to actually handle & see watches that you might not ordinarily consider adding to your own collection. Such was the case with DuDro's brilliant MBK/MBW Patek Nautilus (someone already posted a good picture of the same model above, but it looks even better in person). While my collection is already represented by Patek, I tend to gravitate towards that brand's more stealthy models like the 5107 on the right Like DuDro said, it was too bad neither of us brought a camera, which is a definite must for the next GTG -- though I would limit photos to the watches only (I do not think it is a good idea to post members' faces on a website that deals in contraband goods).

Diesel -- Looks outstanding & I agree with Jetsons - 1000% improvement. NOW it's starting to look the way a gen vintage Rolex is supposed to look. I would also agree that you would do well to toss that rep rivet bracelet out & replace it with a gen folded or hollow link Oyster (I think the additional money spent here pays off) or hollow link rep Oyster with gen 93150 clasp or just a good rep hollow-link Oyster.

Just returned from the joint RWG/Dark Side GTG in DC that wasn't (Dudro and I were the only 2 in attendance, but the watches were outstanding) wearing this (the watch, not the book) And on my way out the door to attend a friend's 40th wearing 1 of these (Sorry about the odd color cast (the dials are actually silver) - forgot to set the white balance (again))

Yes & thank you.

I think it is just part of the team or pack mentality. Everyone wants to show how they are part of the gen team by proving how much more sanguine they can appear to be when something bad happens to reps or the people that deal in them. And the first time I heard anything in the media about a terrorism connection with reps was a year or so after 9/11. However, for the previous 20 or so years (since I have been buying them), I have seen plenty of newspaper articles & tv news features about organized crime's involvement.